Does jazz have the ability to deadhead their people in Confirmed J? I heard that was happening, and I have seen their flight attendants in J while I was deadheading as a mainline pilot in economy.
Jazz air crew do not get any confirmed J seats. If anything, more often than not, I can attest to the fact that when I check in for a deadhead there is a 50/50 chance I have been assigned to a centre seat. There is nothing like being crammed into a centre seat on a 5 hour deadhead and then have to operate on arrival. I try and avoid this by checking in 24 hours ahead, but there are times, there is no suitable alternative.
There's a very good chance that the Jazz FA in J while you were in the back may have been working for AC for 30+ years!
Get over it...life goes on! There's more to life then "getting" J class!
Filling up J with randoms from the back sounds like a smart idea, but it is not. The J passenger paid or used an upgrade to get there. To have someone sitting next to them bragging about a free upgrade would not look so good.
They have a system, and a pecking order that is followed.
I am an AC million-miler, I always book Y, and if by chance I get upgraded, I am grateful for the perk. I enjoy the service, but never ever brag or talk about how I got there.
I reserved a seat on a Dash 8 Q400 flight and noticed when I got my boarding pass that I had been moved across the aisle from the seat I had selected. I booked a window seat and was given an aisle seat instead. After boarding was complete I was surprised to see both my original seat and the one beside it was empty. So after takeoff I slid across the aisle over to my original booked seat to give myself and the person I was sitting beside some extra room. The flight attendant noticed and told me I couldn't sit there and I apologized and returned to my assigned seat. I assumed that there was something wrong with the seat and it wasn't safe to use. Later in the flight, after the drinks were served, two flight attendants came and sat in those two seats, lowered the tray tables, and played a game of cards. I believe it was Crazy Eights.
Rudy wrote:I reserved a seat on a Dash 8 Q400 flight and noticed when I got my boarding pass that I had been moved across the aisle from the seat I had selected. I booked a window seat and was given an aisle seat instead. After boarding was complete I was surprised to see both my original seat and the one beside it was empty. So after takeoff I slid across the aisle over to my original booked seat to give myself and the person I was sitting beside some extra room. The flight attendant noticed and told me I couldn't sit there and I apologized and returned to my assigned seat. I assumed that there was something wrong with the seat and it wasn't safe to use. Later in the flight, after the drinks were served, two flight attendants came and sat in those two seats, lowered the tray tables, and played a game of cards. I believe it was Crazy Eights.
At Jazz in the Dash 8-100, Row 8 seats A & C are reserved as "crew seats" if there are 35 or less people. That way the F/A has somewhere to sit besides facing backwards in the jumpseat after service is completed. I am not sure which row it is on the Q, but I assume it is near the back near the galley in seats A & C. I don't know why when pre-selecting your seat online that those seats are available to the public, only to have them switched last minute at the gate... That's Air Canada's problem since they run the check-in system. Some F/A's place a placard on the seat before boarding commences that says something along the lines of "Reserved Seat / Do Not Use" so that people don't see empty seats and try to take them on their own.
But long story short, the seat(s) you wanted were most likely designated crew seats, and unless the aircraft is completely full, F/A's are contractually allowed to sit there and move passengers to other seats.
Completely pointless,
As mentioned by many people before.
I know quite a few full fair passengers who have once been upgraded for different reasons. They were quite ecstatic by the situation and enjoyed the flight and services more than ever. What happened next time they had to fly somewhere? They booked the cheapest flight (ie. whether it be WJ, Transat, AC etc). Sure didn't make them loyal to AC next time around.
So why give away a product for free? You don't.
And finally, once you start upgrading people for free the mentality changes from a "OMG I got first class" to "I CANT BELIEVE I DIDNT GET THAT UPGRADE, THIS IS BS!!"
DBC wrote:
Does jazz have the ability to deadhead their people in Confirmed J? I heard that was happening, and I have seen their flight attendants in J while I was deadheading as a mainline pilot in economy.
Basic answer is no.
If you were deadheading on a DH/POS booking, and there was a Jazz FA in J, then someone broke a rule. I believe that even Jazz management only get a J class seat if space available. Only exceptions would be President and VP's likely are booked POS J.
complexintentions wrote:Errr….speaking as one, Emirates captains deadhead in F, first officers deadhead in J. In uniform, no alcohol (duh), caviar and hand job optional.
complexintentions wrote:Errr….speaking as one, Emirates captains deadhead in F, first officers deadhead in J. In uniform, no alcohol (duh), caviar and hand job optional.
Flight time is paid at normal duty rates.
That is all.
Merry Christmas to all you AvCanada reprobates!
Great, now every disgruntled Air Canada customer will expect a handjob coupon as well as big seat.
As an aside, I think given the paycuts and then stagnation over the past 12 years, I've bought that J class deadhead seat. I would gladly give it up for the back-pay that would result form the re-instatement of my former salary plus inflation, but then people might have to pay an extra buck fifty for their ticket.