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Re: Employee Seating

Post by TrailerParkBoy » Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:45 pm

prop2jet wrote:
Does jazz have the ability to deadhead their people in Confirmed J? I heard that was happening, and I have seen their flight attendants in J while I was deadheading as a mainline pilot in economy.
Jazz air crew do not get any confirmed J seats. If anything, more often than not, I can attest to the fact that when I check in for a deadhead there is a 50/50 chance I have been assigned to a centre seat. There is nothing like being crammed into a centre seat on a 5 hour deadhead and then have to operate on arrival. I try and avoid this by checking in 24 hours ahead, but there are times, there is no suitable alternative.
There's a very good chance that the Jazz FA in J while you were in the back may have been working for AC for 30+ years!

Get over it...life goes on! There's more to life then "getting" J class!

Merry Christmas!
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by Idle Thrust » Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:46 pm

"Jazz FA working at AIR CANADA for over thirty years" .......................???????????????????
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by MeAndMrPenguin » Thu Dec 19, 2013 11:18 pm

Filling up J with randoms from the back sounds like a smart idea, but it is not. The J passenger paid or used an upgrade to get there. To have someone sitting next to them bragging about a free upgrade would not look so good.

They have a system, and a pecking order that is followed.
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by ogopogo » Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:29 am

I am an AC million-miler, I always book Y, and if by chance I get upgraded, I am grateful for the perk. I enjoy the service, but never ever brag or talk about how I got there.
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by TrailerParkBoy » Fri Dec 20, 2013 3:15 pm

Idle Thrust wrote:"Jazz FA working at AIR CANADA for over thirty years" .......................???????????????????

I said: "working for"...not "at"!

Who do you think Jazz works for?????????????????
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by Rudy » Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:02 pm

I reserved a seat on a Dash 8 Q400 flight and noticed when I got my boarding pass that I had been moved across the aisle from the seat I had selected. I booked a window seat and was given an aisle seat instead. After boarding was complete I was surprised to see both my original seat and the one beside it was empty. So after takeoff I slid across the aisle over to my original booked seat to give myself and the person I was sitting beside some extra room. The flight attendant noticed and told me I couldn't sit there and I apologized and returned to my assigned seat. I assumed that there was something wrong with the seat and it wasn't safe to use. Later in the flight, after the drinks were served, two flight attendants came and sat in those two seats, lowered the tray tables, and played a game of cards. :lol: I believe it was Crazy Eights.
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by DHC-1 Jockey » Fri Dec 20, 2013 5:45 pm

Rudy wrote:I reserved a seat on a Dash 8 Q400 flight and noticed when I got my boarding pass that I had been moved across the aisle from the seat I had selected. I booked a window seat and was given an aisle seat instead. After boarding was complete I was surprised to see both my original seat and the one beside it was empty. So after takeoff I slid across the aisle over to my original booked seat to give myself and the person I was sitting beside some extra room. The flight attendant noticed and told me I couldn't sit there and I apologized and returned to my assigned seat. I assumed that there was something wrong with the seat and it wasn't safe to use. Later in the flight, after the drinks were served, two flight attendants came and sat in those two seats, lowered the tray tables, and played a game of cards. :lol: I believe it was Crazy Eights.
At Jazz in the Dash 8-100, Row 8 seats A & C are reserved as "crew seats" if there are 35 or less people. That way the F/A has somewhere to sit besides facing backwards in the jumpseat after service is completed. I am not sure which row it is on the Q, but I assume it is near the back near the galley in seats A & C. I don't know why when pre-selecting your seat online that those seats are available to the public, only to have them switched last minute at the gate... That's Air Canada's problem since they run the check-in system. Some F/A's place a placard on the seat before boarding commences that says something along the lines of "Reserved Seat / Do Not Use" so that people don't see empty seats and try to take them on their own.

But long story short, the seat(s) you wanted were most likely designated crew seats, and unless the aircraft is completely full, F/A's are contractually allowed to sit there and move passengers to other seats.
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by DH772 » Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:28 pm

Completely pointless,
As mentioned by many people before.

I know quite a few full fair passengers who have once been upgraded for different reasons. They were quite ecstatic by the situation and enjoyed the flight and services more than ever. What happened next time they had to fly somewhere? They booked the cheapest flight (ie. whether it be WJ, Transat, AC etc). Sure didn't make them loyal to AC next time around.

So why give away a product for free? You don't.


And finally, once you start upgrading people for free the mentality changes from a "OMG I got first class" to "I CANT BELIEVE I DIDNT GET THAT UPGRADE, THIS IS BS!!"
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by loopa » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:28 am

You should see how Emirates deals with the deadheading of their crew - specifically Captains.
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by DH772 » Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:51 am

Do go on
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by altiplano » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:21 pm

I heard it was handjobs and caviar until TOD.
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by altiplano » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:23 pm

seriously though, I heard they don't get paid and can't drink.
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by altiplano » Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:25 pm

or was it they don't get paid and give handjobs?

anyway...
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by TeePeeCreeper » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:50 pm

altiplano wrote:I heard it was handjobs and caviar until TOD.
^

Now that was funny! :lol:
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by cv990 » Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:18 pm

Jazz Q400, seats 4AC are designated crew seats and wont be given out until the plane is full...
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by prop2jet » Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:43 am

cv990 wrote:Jazz Q400, seats 4AC are designated crew seats and wont be given out until the plane is full...
And most FA's like to switch those seats with passengers assigned to the last row of seats so they can be closer to the galley.
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by complexintentions » Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:47 pm

Errr….speaking as one, Emirates captains deadhead in F, first officers deadhead in J. In uniform, no alcohol (duh), caviar and hand job optional.

Flight time is paid at normal duty rates.

That is all.

Merry Christmas to all you AvCanada reprobates! 8)
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by Canoehead » Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:58 pm

DBC wrote:
Does jazz have the ability to deadhead their people in Confirmed J? I heard that was happening, and I have seen their flight attendants in J while I was deadheading as a mainline pilot in economy.

Basic answer is no.

If you were deadheading on a DH/POS booking, and there was a Jazz FA in J, then someone broke a rule. I believe that even Jazz management only get a J class seat if space available. Only exceptions would be President and VP's likely are booked POS J.
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by shagger » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:50 pm

complexintentions wrote:Errr….speaking as one, Emirates captains deadhead in F, first officers deadhead in J. In uniform, no alcohol (duh), caviar and hand job optional.

Flight time is paid at normal duty rates.

That is all.

Merry Christmas to all you AvCanada reprobates! 8)

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Re: Employee Seating

Post by Ah_yeah » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:37 pm

complexintentions wrote:Errr….speaking as one, Emirates captains deadhead in F, first officers deadhead in J. In uniform, no alcohol (duh), caviar and hand job optional.

Flight time is paid at normal duty rates.

That is all.

Merry Christmas to all you AvCanada reprobates! 8)
Great, now every disgruntled Air Canada customer will expect a handjob coupon as well as big seat.

As an aside, I think given the paycuts and then stagnation over the past 12 years, I've bought that J class deadhead seat. I would gladly give it up for the back-pay that would result form the re-instatement of my former salary plus inflation, but then people might have to pay an extra buck fifty for their ticket.
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by cv990 » Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:00 pm

Jazz crew on company deadhead (on shift) are PY2/J10. Not confirmed J, but space available. Positive space Y class (with a do not deplane notation), upgradeable.
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by av8ts » Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:11 pm

"As an aside, I think given the paycuts and then stagnation over the past 12 years, I've bought that J class deadhead seat. I would gladly give it up for the back-pay that would result form the re-instatement of my former salary plus inflation, but then people might have to pay an extra buck fifty for their ticket."

I think what he is saying is "I'm entitled to my entitlements"
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by bearitus » Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:51 am

Does anyone know if AC Express pilots can pick their seat for deadheads in economy class? I have been doing that for all my deadheads with Jazz and now apparently owe AC a considerable amount of money.
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by altiplano » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:01 am

Like seat selection when you check in?
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Re: Employee Seating

Post by bearitus » Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:03 am

Like online through the AC app when checking in for the deadhead. I usually get assigned the aisle seat but because I am a big unit I prefer to switch it to the Emergency exit row seat. I have been doing this for the past 8 months at Jazz and have built up quite an unexpected tab.
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