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767 to SYD/MEL

#1 Post by leftoftrack » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:41 pm

with 5 767's coming on board would WS be looking at possibly a 767 continuing from HNL to MEL/SYD as most of Europe is already covered they would have the only 1 stop to MEL from canada?
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Re: 767 to SYD/MEL

#2 Post by True North » Fri Jun 05, 2015 6:31 am

5?
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Re: 767 to SYD/MEL

#3 Post by leftoftrack » Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:48 am

True North wrote:5?
My mistake, there was a rumour on another forum. Anyway, the possibility still exists but far less likely. 1 767 from YYZ 1 from YYC 1 from YEG and a 737 all connecting in HNL with the 4th 767 continuing to MEL

That would leave no slack in the system for IROPs however it would offer a route that no one is doing
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Re: 767 to SYD/MEL

#4 Post by slipkeys » Fri Jun 05, 2015 1:00 pm

That would be awesome if they did this, highly doubt it though tbh.
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Re: 767 to SYD/MEL

#5 Post by leftoftrack » Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:24 am

any thoughts on destinations?
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Re: 767 to SYD/MEL

#6 Post by Joe Blow Schmo » Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:21 pm

YEV, YRT, and YFB are the first 3 destinations. 24 hour layovers in each, 48 in the winter.
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Re: 767 to SYD/MEL

#7 Post by DH772 » Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:44 am

with 5 767's coming on board would WS be looking at possibly a 767 continuing from HNL to MEL/SYD as most of Europe is already covered they would have the only 1 stop to MEL from canada?
Doubtful. Sorry to tell you but this isn't a new ground breaking idea. Canadian/AC did the SYD route before they were able to go direct. Losing 1/2 to 3/4 of your people in HNL then continuing on to SYD is not efficient as a full plane to Europe. Nor does a passenger want an extra 3 hour stop over if they can go direct to Canada.

The Europe/Asian market are well served and very expensive getting good slot times at some
Destinations but that is where the money/passengers are.
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Re: 767 to SYD/MEL

#8 Post by leftoftrack » Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:20 pm

DH772 wrote:
with 5 767's coming on board would WS be looking at possibly a 767 continuing from HNL to MEL/SYD as most of Europe is already covered they would have the only 1 stop to MEL from canada?
Doubtful. Sorry to tell you but this isn't a new ground breaking idea. Canadian/AC did the SYD route before they were able to go direct. Losing 1/2 to 3/4 of your people in HNL then continuing on to SYD is not efficient as a full plane to Europe. Nor does a passenger want an extra 3 hour stop over if they can go direct to Canada.

The Europe/Asian market are well served and very expensive getting good slot times at some
Destinations but that is where the money/passengers are.
That's why you have 4 aircraft arrive at the same time. Your 20% load factor has now turned into 85 to 90%. Also lowers the cost to operate with the stop in the middle your no longer burning extra fuel hauling fuel. And you can't go from anywhere in Canada with out doing a 1 stop to MEL anyway, if westjet decided to go direct MEL from HNL. Also controls yield to HNL out of YEG and YYC with the larger aircraft and opens up yyz direct HNL. Just my thoughts
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Re: 767 to SYD/MEL

#9 Post by Realitychex » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:17 am

WJ has a domestic feed network with about 130 tails.

Transat has nothing. They rely on pure O&D traffic.

Therein lies the difference.

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Re: 767 to SYD/MEL

#10 Post by leftoftrack » Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:46 am

Realitychex wrote:WJ has a domestic feed network with about 130 tails.

Transat has nothing. They rely on pure O&D traffic.

Therein lies the difference.

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Transat doesn't fly to MEL or SYD did you mean for this comment to be on this thread?
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