Policy is maybe the wrong word. It's a goal. It's a target.Radcap55 wrote:Fanblade wrote:Race to the bottom. Transat tells their pilots we need you the lowest. Then AC moves to demand the lowest. Then sunwing. Then WJ. Then Transat again and the cycle continues.Realitychex wrote:Here's my take on this as a former insider now an outsider looking inside:
If there's no contract that ensures WJ remains the lowest cost Canadian domiciled operator of WB capacity for at least the same duration as other contracts in effect at other Cdn based airlines in the marketplace, they'll be no more WB aircraft at WJ.
It's that simple.
CEO's are like competitive athletes. The drive to compete or have an advantage over an opponent is intense. They will play it on the employees backs if we don't stop them. We are simply the easiest target. Low hanging fruit.
From a former insider, you heard it straight from his mouth. You will always have to be the lowest paid.
ALPA's policy. Everyone the same pay. No company gets a competitive advantage from pilot wages. Remove pilots from the race to the bottom cycle.
Get your cost savings elsewhere.
So your saying AT 330 Pilots are paid the same as all the other 330 carriers? And that their B737 Pilots are paid the same as all other B737 Pilots? They are ALPA are they not? Thats ALPA's policy...you said so.
Don't confuse ALPA C with ALPA.
ALPA in the US will not allow anyone to sign a contract below the going rate. Every group is expected to meet or exceed the going rate.
They can do this because just about everyone is represented by ALPA. As such they can slowly march the bar higher with each successive contract.
In Canada this is not the case. I believe however it needs to be, and that includes AC pilots. It also needs to be part of the greater ALPA group and not ALPA C. So far ALPA C has been allowed to run its own show and IMO unlikely to produce/ has not produced the same results.
Think about it. Had AC pilots been ALPA I doubt Rouge would have ever seen the light of day. Rouge wages are now putting downward pressure on WJ WB wages. Rouge 319 wages downward pressure on WJ 737 wages. Downward pressure on Transat wages. Why? Because AC pilots bought into the notion that we had to compete with other pilots. The second you buy into that, the lowest wage is the benchmark.
We need to stop this. We have made ourselves cost reduction targets by buying into the notion we need to be cheaper than the next guy. Instead we need to reach parity with each other. Removing ourselves from corporate crosshairs. Removing ourselves from CEO's seeking a competitive advantage using pilot wages.