I’m not sure why those of us that don’t bend over to the company are seen as not “happy”. We just want better for our pilot group at the company. I am more then happy with ALPA, in fact so thankful that the WJPA isn’t negotiating us through these turbulent times.WeedPro2000 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:47 amWhatever Greg. I hope you find some happiness.Flyingsquirrelsuck wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:44 pmJust to add to your post.NewCommercialPilot wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:19 am
Hold on now. Let's not re-write history to favour how you felt things went down.
Step 1: WestJet declares it will set up an ULCC arm.
Step 2: WJPA and WJ engaged in high level talks at determining wages for the Swoop pilots. Parity between WJ and Swoop pilots was mentioned by the WJPA. WJ leadership did not protest. All appearances are that the agreed wage rate would have been very close to mainline.
Step 3: WJ pilots (61.3%) decide they do not want a collaborative relationship between the company and the pilots and certify with ALPA. They want black and white period. Everything contractual. Everything per the rules.
Step 4: WJ pilots (61.3%) get the non-collaborative relationship results they sought. They are frozen out of the Swoop flight deck, with no way to get in.
Step 5: WJ pilots (61.3%), encouraged by ALPA, now are upset by the results of THEIR OWN ACTIONS. WJ pilots (61.3%, maybe more), now realize that life ain't fair.
How's that? That clear things up for you?
91% our of 95% vote in favour of a strike mandate.
Saying that the WJPA were “involved” in high level talks with management is misleading. Saying both sides agreed to Swoop wages that would be close to Westjet mainline wages is a complete lie!
There was NO information passed onto the pilot group concerning wages or working conditions until several months after certification.
61.3% of pilots voted for a change of representation. It was the company that changed the relationship.
The old relationship was full of lies and a complete loss of accountability on managements side along with the WJPA.
Rules are good. It holds both sides accountable.
Stop lying John. You are a minority in the pilot group now.
By the looks of it, I am going to see about a 40% raise thanks to ALPA, but, as I’ve said all along....the devils in the arbitrators details.
I just had a awesome opening day at the cabin. Deck is cleaned up, golf cart tuned up, fire tonight with the wife and Kids. Tomorrow buddies are showing up to roll my boat lift in, I’ll pay them with Pilsner, then we’ll watch the Riders destroy Montreal.
Don’t confuse us WestJet pilots being upset with Swoop as if we’re some angry group of people who hate life. If that’s the case you need to get out more.