MattK wrote: ↑Tue May 29, 2018 5:09 pm
mbav8- OK, I'll try and make it simple. WJ management (owners) could care less about your career progression. My point has nothing to do with the Swoop pilots. It is simply to suggest that WJ may not just walk away from Swoop and there are many course of action that they could take. Perhaps they will just roll it up and abandon it all together as a path that was not worth following (ie. they lost the battle). Or perhaps they may attempt an end run around the issue of WJ pilots flying the Swoop birds. I am guessing there are a few ways to do this - one being the sale of of 51% of Swoop (regardless of it being only one airframe and a handful of staff) to another entity who sees value. When WJ does not own a controlling interest Swoop can staff with anyone they like!
Or they buy 49% of another ULCC - same effect. They want to try and control the bottom end of the market. This allows some control, presumably is somewhat profitable and enables them to bypass the WJ pilots all together.
So lets make it clearer - they don't want the cost associated with WJ and they want to find a way around it. It is great that the WJ pilots stuck together! My point is the the company may have more up their sleeves than what we see now.
MattK,
You may be correct that WJ may not walk away from swoop, the value to them at this point may be with the other groups of employees, the ones without scope.
First of all, by all accounts WJ has agreed that it will be WJ pilots staffing swoop, that is excluded from the arbitration.
Second, your point about WJ selling 49% plus 2%, keeping 49 for themselves, they could keep 5% it would not matter because the scope language being violated and under submission to the CIRB is clear. Any affiliate would fall under this, maybe WJ will continue to fight the scope language, who knows.
PS. It’s not affecting my career progression, I’m not at WJ. Just an interested observer who wants to see scumbags like tbaylx get their due. I know all too well what’s happens when scum offers to do your work at a huge discount.