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WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

#1 Post by Maritimer » Fri May 25, 2018 5:21 pm

Word on the street is that it has been agreed upon by the WJ MEC and management have come to an agreement to have all Teal and Pink aircraft flown by current WJ pilots.
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Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

#2 Post by BE02 Driver » Fri May 25, 2018 5:24 pm

Maritimer wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 5:21 pm
Word on the street is that it has been agreed upon by the WJ MEC and management have come to an agreement to have all Teal and Pink aircraft flown by current WJ pilots.
Haven't heard any details except job action is off the table and both parties agreed to mediations and binding arbitration if necessary.
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#3 Post by Maritimer » Fri May 25, 2018 5:26 pm

I feel you will soon see what I’m talking about..
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Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

#4 Post by Demeter » Fri May 25, 2018 5:30 pm

Alpa caved as the lockout was imminent. Alpa “rejected a Final Offer Selection arbitration process, where one side wins 100% and one side loses 100%. Instead we agreed to an interest-based mediation/arbitration”
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Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

#5 Post by Maritimer » Fri May 25, 2018 5:31 pm

Demeter wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 5:30 pm
Alpa caved as the lockout was imminent. Alpa “rejected a Final Offer Selection arbitration process, where one side wins 100% and one side loses 100%. Instead we agreed to an interest-based mediation/arbitration”
Keep dreaming and go back to your hole troll
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Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

#6 Post by BE02 Driver » Fri May 25, 2018 5:32 pm

Maritimer wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 5:26 pm
I feel you will soon see what I’m talking about..
Not doubting it, what happens to the OTS hires if this is the case?
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Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

#7 Post by Demeter » Fri May 25, 2018 5:35 pm

Maritimer wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 5:31 pm
Demeter wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 5:30 pm
Alpa caved as the lockout was imminent. Alpa “rejected a Final Offer Selection arbitration process, where one side wins 100% and one side loses 100%. Instead we agreed to an interest-based mediation/arbitration”
Keep dreaming and go back to your hole troll
That’s from the Alpa fastread :goodman:
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#8 Post by atphat » Fri May 25, 2018 5:42 pm

excellent news for the WJ pilot group. Unity reaps results!
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Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

#9 Post by Maritimer » Fri May 25, 2018 5:44 pm

Demeter wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 5:35 pm
Maritimer wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 5:31 pm
Demeter wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 5:30 pm
Alpa caved as the lockout was imminent. Alpa “rejected a Final Offer Selection arbitration process, where one side wins 100% and one side loses 100%. Instead we agreed to an interest-based mediation/arbitration”
Keep dreaming and go back to your hole troll
That’s from the Alpa fastread :goodman:
No one is arguing the part in quotations.

How is agreeing to a process that allows mediation and only if necessary on unfinished items, arbitration, considered “caving”? We don’t want a lockout, just as we don’t want to have to strike.

Everyone knows that this wasn’t going to be a huge all out slam dunk win on every item rather a step forward towards industry standard that we are now so far behind.

Only question left is what did the MEC do to get this win, and what happens to the non-WJ OTS hires?
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Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

#10 Post by Legacy » Fri May 25, 2018 5:45 pm

BE02 Driver wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 5:32 pm
Maritimer wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 5:26 pm
I feel you will soon see what I’m talking about..
Not doubting it, what happens to the OTS hires if this is the case?

Hopefully sent on their way. Don't think most of us would wanna work with them now anyway
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#11 Post by Demeter » Fri May 25, 2018 5:50 pm

Read between the lines. They caved with pressure from the lockout and minister probably taking away the strike card.
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#12 Post by Flyingsquirrelsuck » Fri May 25, 2018 5:58 pm

Demeter wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 5:50 pm
Read between the lines. They caved with pressure from the lockout and minister probably taking away the strike card.
Where would we be if under the direction of the former WJPA Mr Demeter? Most of us flying Swoop aircraft for 40% less and working more days.

No strike means the companies public image doesn’t take the full on negative PR hit.

Unfortunately we have the deal with your types at the company for the time being
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Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

#13 Post by Maritimer » Fri May 25, 2018 6:00 pm

Demeter wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 5:50 pm
Read between the lines. They caved with pressure from the lockout and minister probably taking away the strike card.
So you read between the lines to deduce that the minister would take away the strike card, but not take away the lockout card. I want to have your level of crazy.
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#14 Post by Bede » Fri May 25, 2018 6:01 pm

Demeter,
We just got the #1 thing on our wishlist. And you think that we caved?
You're nuts.
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#15 Post by BE02 Driver » Fri May 25, 2018 6:02 pm

Bede wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 6:01 pm
Demeter,
We just got the #1 thing on our wishlist. And you think that we caved?
You're nuts.
+1. Biggest line item. Other things are icing. Now both sides can save face with binding arbitration.
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#16 Post by atphat » Fri May 25, 2018 6:15 pm

It's a major win/win. edit. bit harsh.
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Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

#17 Post by ahramin » Fri May 25, 2018 6:31 pm

I would think the pilots hired for swoop will be given the option of joining the mainline.
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#18 Post by Flyingsquirrelsuck » Fri May 25, 2018 6:32 pm

ahramin wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 6:31 pm
I would think the pilots hired for swoop will be given the option of joining the mainline.
You bet. Right seat on the Q400.
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#19 Post by Boreas » Fri May 25, 2018 6:37 pm

ahramin wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 6:31 pm
I would think the pilots hired for swoop will be given the option of joining the mainline.
I would think they'll be slotted for the 787...

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Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

#20 Post by BE02 Driver » Fri May 25, 2018 6:40 pm

Flyingsquirrelsuck wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 6:32 pm
ahramin wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 6:31 pm
I would think the pilots hired for swoop will be given the option of joining the mainline.
You bet. Right seat on the Q400.
There was a DEC ad posted for Encore yesterday.
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#21 Post by Bede » Fri May 25, 2018 6:49 pm

ahramin wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 6:31 pm
I would think the pilots hired for swoop will be given the option of joining the mainline.
BOTL at encore at best. This flying belongs to our encore brothers/sisters.
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Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

#22 Post by Biff » Fri May 25, 2018 6:51 pm

Oh the irony.....

On profit share day when we had one of he worst profit shares in years....how much money was wasted on training guys on a plane they will not be flying? This management worries me.
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#23 Post by confusedalot » Fri May 25, 2018 6:55 pm

This is very sad to read. Can't see the forest for the trees.
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#24 Post by tbayav8er » Fri May 25, 2018 7:03 pm

As an Encore pilot, I feel this is great news for our careers.
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Re: WestJet pilots to fly Swoop aircraft

#25 Post by RidersRule » Fri May 25, 2018 7:05 pm

confusedalot wrote:
Fri May 25, 2018 6:55 pm
This is very sad to read. Can't see the forest for the trees.
Unemployed Swoop pilot?
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