WJ Return to HNL - New Years

pika · Post by **pika** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:42 am

Anybody have the details? Mechanical or medical?

onelargefoot · Post by **onelargefoot** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:16 am

Ahhhh C'mon Pika, if you're going to go fishing for shit with just provocative headlines a la National Enquirer, why don't you at least give us something baby, just a friggin' morsel of info that lets us believe you're more than what you let the world see...

I mean, you could tell us you checked here:

http://www.liveatc.net/archive.php

It's certainly possible I would have believed it if you had told us you put an old Sinead O'connor album on and turned the volume down way low as you masturbated and listened to the PHNL tower and approach frequencies archives for the date and time in question (Follow the instructions on that page, its all there

) and heard an inflight turnback by WJ. Yaahhh, I might have believed it...

But you didn't...

So I'm left to believe you're confusing 'this' with 'that' and you meant to say the Air Canada turnback described here:

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=204874

Published: Wednesday, January 04, 2006
Three days after being appointed as a Queen's Counsel, a prominent Calgary lawyer was on a plane when one of its engines failed.

Shortly after 1 a.m. Tuesday, Gerald Chipeur and his 16-year-old daughter Lauren sleepily settled into their seats for a flight from Honolulu to Sydney, Australia.

Minutes after takeoff, they heard a large bang.

"My daughter said, 'That doesn't sound great. We're losing power,' " said the lawyer, known for fighting to protect human rights and religious freedoms by taking cases to the Supreme Court of Canada.

"I reassured her and said there was no problem . . . but she was right."

The Boeing 767 grew eerily quiet. The pilot asked service staff to come to the cockpit.

Moments later, he informed the 142 passengers they would be returning to Hawaii because of an engine malfunction.

Chipeur looked out the window at the twinkling lights of Honolulu below. He knew a runway was minutes away, but still felt uneasy.

"When we landed, a tire blew on one side of the large airplane because it was too heavy with all that fuel," Chipeur said.

Air Canada confirmed Flight 045 was rerouted because one of its two engines wasn't working properly.

"The aircraft landed safely. At no time were passengers in any danger," said Air Canada spokeswoman Angela Mah.

A replacement was sent to take the passengers to Sydney, 12 hours after their original flight took off, she said.

Despite Air Canada's assurances, Chipeur said things could have proved much worse if the captain and crew hadn't acted swiftly. "A disaster was averted here."

Chipeur said he'll have a lot more faith in his daughter's intuition from now on.

I dunno Pika. When I responded to you on that other thread I hadn't done my homework. I hadn't read your posting history...so I jumped at your bait. I wanted to wrestle too, but what is that saying about wrestling with a pig in shit? Something about "and then you realize that the pig enjoys it..."

Cheers Pika

RB211 · Post by **RB211** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:26 am

onelargefoot,

My understanding is pika is partially correct. The turn back apparently was 2 hours out of YVR and the flight was then cancelled. It was destined for PHOG not PHNL.

The pax stranded in PHOG were accommodated at Wailea as rooms were, not surprisingly, very scarce.

Maybe someone has some info on what the problem was.

RB211 · Post by **RB211** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:27 am

oops. duplication.

onelargefoot · Post by **onelargefoot** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:52 pm

Oh. It just seemed so unlikely that two Canadian air carriers could have had an inflight turnback involving Hawaii. When I saw the thing on PPrune I felt sure that's what he was thinking about.

BTW RB211, be ya a 75 kinda guy?

sprucemonkey · Post by **sprucemonkey** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:47 pm

Don't tell me that the '700 couldn't (didn't) make its ETP out of YVR? Aren't the 700's the HGW version which goes around 3200nm?

pika · Post by **pika** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:01 pm

Two suggestions:

1. Do your homework BEFORE you question my professionalism.

2. Maybe you should change your name to onelargefoot-in-mouth...

It's certainly possible I would have believed it if you had told us you put an old Sinead O'connor album on and turned the volume down way low as you masturbated and listened to the PHNL tower and approach frequencies archives for the date and time in question (Follow the instructions on that page, its all there ) and heard an inflight turnback by WJ. Yaahhh, I might have believed it...

You post this enlightening piece and tell me I'm the one who likes getting covered in shit?

gelbisch · Post by **gelbisch** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:35 pm

"My daughter said, 'That doesn't sound great. We're losing power,' " said the lawyer, known for fighting to protect human rights and religious freedoms by taking cases to the Supreme Court of Canada...

Despite Air Canada's assurances, Chipeur said things could have proved much worse if the captain and crew hadn't acted swiftly. "A disaster was averted here."

Why do these yoyos make stupid claims like that? Is he basing this statement on his many hours piloting a widebody during his career as a lawyer? I wouldn't walk into the middle of a court case and start commenting on what was happening... so why does every Tom, Dick and Harry feel the need to so when aviation is involved?

Pajock · Post by **Pajock** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:11 pm

It was an -800. The HF radio did not work, resulting in them turning back.

pika · Post by **pika** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:56 am

Thanks Pajock, I knew there had to be a simple answer.

Ryan Coke · Post by **Ryan Coke** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:17 am

Not really that simple. You asked about a turn back to HNL, and AC has the only one lately. WJ had a turn back to YVR, which isn't what you asked about. But if you wanted to know about the turn back to YVR, then you got the info the hard way.

pika · Post by **pika** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 11:53 am

It was my mistake. I was asking curious about the OGG return.

Pajock · Post by **Pajock** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:57 pm

Sorry, didn't read the title close enough. Just assumed it was the return to YVR one, it's the only one I know of.