Best Gun to protect the Home Front?

[Scuba_Steve]

UMP 45 SD - It'll drop what it hits, and won't wake the neighbors

[grimey]

short bus does that mean all the .50 ammo (and yes it is live) that i have here at home should be deposited somewhere safe ie the local river or military base? just so you all know and before you start ranting it was all purchased legally and from a reputable dealer before all this FAC bs came into being when i purchased it it was belted and ready to be used part of the terms of the sale set by me was the rounds had to be un linked as i didnt really want a belt of .50 in my home although it would hav looked neat beside the .30 cal(.303) belt i have the neat thing with that belt is all the rounds are stamped with RAF 1943 as the owner and yr of mfg

.50 BMG ammunition is not illegal. Incendiary or explosive .50 BMG rounds are, but that's due to the type of round, not the calibre. A bolt action .50 rifle is an unrestricted weapon in Canada.

http://www.canlii.org/ca/regu/sor98-462/part83018.html

[ScudRunner]

Grimey, You beat me too it.

I hope to sport a McMillan .50 Cal.

Yes thats right the same rifle that a good Canadian kid iced a bad guy 2.4 kilometres away during combat in Afghanistan. This was the Longest confirmed sniper kill in History!!!!! dude recieved a bunch of medals from the US as well. The Jalalabad Joe had a group of US Army Rangers pinned down when he dialed long distance.


Um Can you lend me $5000.00 for it I just spent it on a PPC

[grimey]

Really though, for home defense, assuming we're talking about people who have actually broken in, not some twit shooting at your house from outside, like others have said, nothing is going to beat a short barrelled pump shotgun. In a darkened room, the sound of a round being chambered will scare off anyone with any sense, and the round will take care of anyone else. And unlike a centerfire rifle, the shot probably won't go through a wall and kill your wife, kids or neighbours. Just get a short barrelled version, so that it's easier to maneuver in a confined area. This is the only real advantage a handgun has for most people. Rifles are great out in the open, not so much indoors in narrow hallways and doorways, and where you do have to worry about where the round is going after it's done with your unwanted guest. And since most carbines are restricted weapons due to the barrel length, getting a short one is a problem anyway.

I want to know what the gang members are wearing in some of your cities that people think they need a large calibre rifle to take them down from 10 feet away. And whoever suggested the Desert Eagle .50 would probably be far better off with a smaller calibre handgun than that beast. Unless you've been using a jackhammer for 20 years, and have wrists the size of my fist. Want to pick a good handgun? Go watch IPSC in the states, and ask the guys what they'd EDC if they could open carry. But unless you're as good as them, get a shotgun.

[Inverted2]

Now that is a sniper rifle, but do they make a LH version?

[just clearing the trees]

One question. How do you get the gun unlocked and/or out of it's locked cabinet, get out the ammo, load the weapon, acquire your target and fire before he gets to you, especially when you consider that this scenario is most likely happening at night, while you were asleep and the perpetrator has the drop on you?

[Walker]

Read my sugestion about the M3M.... Auto Turrets.....

[grimey]

One question. How do you get the gun unlocked and/or out of it's locked cabinet, get out the ammo, load the weapon, acquire your target and fire before he gets to you, especially when you consider that this scenario is most likely happening at night, while you were asleep and the perpetrator has the drop on you?

It's part of a solution, not the be all and end all.

[Walker]

here we go guys, this student built a platform for an airsoft version of a P-90 for $50, just put a real gun on it and away ya go!!!, See if you could modify a Mag to accept a bigger ammo load, I bet it could do 500 rounds before cleaning...
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000770060024/

Fifteen of these on the perimeter and your set! Just be sure to hide them well…. OOOooo… use normal rounds for ones with a longer scanning range, but subsonic, silenced, and flash suppressed when you get closer to the building… so you get woken up by the first few, and if the bad guy disables some and rushes the building the silenced ones may take his crew by surprise, just enough time to get to the center of the villa to your Chinook to drop a fuel air bomb as you escape…

.... Just make sure you shut it off before the UPS guy drops by with that Viagra you ordered..... DAMMIT!!!!! NOT AGAIN!!!!!!!! Hunny could you get the pressure washer out please......

I hope that got rid of any remaining dignity the thread may have had…

[just clearing the trees]

[altiplano]

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[marktheone]

One question. How do you get the gun unlocked and/or out of it's locked cabinet, get out the ammo, load the weapon, acquire your target and fire before he gets to you, especially when you consider that this scenario is most likely happening at night, while you were asleep and the perpetrator has the drop on you?

Lock? Were they serious about that? Nah.

[altiplano]

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[just clearing the trees]

So in reality, my Louisville Slugger is a better option than a gun.

[hazatude]

Unless the asshole that punches in your door looking for crack funds has a Louisville Slugger or a gun.

[Blue Side Down]

Generally the sound of a pump gun's action cycling is unmistakable, and will usually cause an intruder to reconsider the situation. Such a method of deterrence is preferable, as little to no paperwork is involved afterwards.

[I_Drive_Planes]

Guns really aren't suitable for the defense of the average home, they tend to be quite cumbersome (and you need a truck capable of towing it), and are better suited to engaging targets at far greater ranges than those encountered in a typical home defence scenario. If I did have to pick one though, I'd say that a 105mm howitzer would likely be the best choice, fairly common with a wide variety of ammunition for different applications.

If I were looking to defend my home I would be looking more toward a rifle, shotgun, or sidearm. A 12 gauge shotgun would be what I would go with, easy to use, imposing to look at, and far less restricted than a sidearm is.

Planes

[Av100LL]

Guns really aren't suitable for the defense of the average home, they tend to be quite cumbersome (and you need a truck capable of towing it), and are better suited to engaging targets at far greater ranges than those encountered in a typical home defence scenario. If I did have to pick one though, I'd say that a 105mm howitzer would likely be the best choice, fairly common with a wide variety of ammunition for different applications.

If I were looking to defend my home I would be looking more toward a rifle, shotgun, or sidearm. A 12 gauge shotgun would be what I would go with, easy to use, imposing to look at, and far less restricted than a sidearm is.

Planes

smartass, your worse than my roomate who's in 61bty... you were a gunner wern't you

but i stick by my C6 and my Lee Enfield Jungle Carbine thank you much

[Driving Rain]

The cops came to a fellow pilot and friends house a few years back to question him as a witness to a car accident. As they were talking to him one peered past him into the house and noticed a gun (rifle) on the coffee table in the living room. They took him down pretty hard. He walked from the charge of unsafe storage in court . ... His defence was simple .. he was using the gun or about to clean it as they knocked at the door. The judge dimissed all charges and his guns were returned.

I was stopped by the OPP on a routine 2am roadside check on the Trans-Canada near Hemlo ON. The lone female officer wanted to search my half ton. I said you'll need a search warrant which stopped her for a few seconds, she was sure she had a dope smuggler on her hands now. I savoured my moment of amusement and then I told her to fill her boots.
She positioned me away from the vehicle and started to hunt around. Long story short, she found my LouisVille slugger. She held in her hands and asked me, "what's this was for?" I asked her, why didn't she recognize it? She said, "TELL ME WHAT YOU USE THIS FOR! " I said, "playing baseball." She said, " WHY IS IT IN YOUR TRUCK?"I said you never know when a baseball game will breakout" "I can take this you know." I said, "sure you can and I'll stop in Sault Ste Marie and buy another one."
If I'd have told her it was for self defence of course I'd have been arrested, charged with carrying a consealed weopon and forbidden to ever own a gun for the rest of my life, but I could still play baseball.

[Doc]

Driving rain...good one. A single cop should never make a stand like that. If you WERE a dope dealer, she'd have been toast!
I got pulled over on my way to a PPC competition near Toronto. Right up-front I told the cop that I had three firearms in the trunk, and where I was going. He just mumbled for me to drive safe!