Windows Vista

Golden Flyer · Post by **Golden Flyer** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:04 am

Since this new operating system is out, I guess XP is out of date. Did anyone get one? Is the upgrade worth it?

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/produc ... fault.mspx

CCnCoke · Post by **CCnCoke** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:28 am

XP Out of date within 48 hours of Vista's release??? I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot stick of 64MB RAM until SP1 is released. Why @#$! around.

Brewguy · Post by **Brewguy** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:31 am

Stay as far away from Vista as possible - for as long as possible!

Sooner or later, MS will force people to upgrade, when they stop supporting older versions such as XP. Until then, it is not worth it. There is nothing earth-shatteringly new about Vista, other than some Mac-style eye candy and half-ass attempts at some common *nix features.

Now, I've only played around with the Beta version - so I guess it's possible that the release candidate version will have some additional changes. But from what I saw on the Beta ... there is nothing in it to justify the additional system resources this bloated piece of garbage requires (to match its bloated price tag).

If you have to have a Microsoft operating system, stick with Windows XP (or whatever you have).

.........And of course, I have to say it: Mac & Linux are both great alternatives.

Bookem Lou · Post by **Bookem Lou** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:39 am

A lot if not most of the programs that run on XP do not run on Vista so you will be required to upgrade your software as well. I'd stay away from it until you no longer have a choice.

gr8gazu · Post by **gr8gazu** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:58 am

Walker · Post by **Walker** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:09 am

lol oh really? I ONLY opperate pirated software, I have never bought a CD or DVD in my life and the ONLY piece of software I ever bought was when I was in JR High and I bought "Pathways into Darkness" (which was the great great great great grandfather of Halo)

Yes it requieres validation, however like all MS crap im sure theres a 45 second walkaround,

JakeYYZ · Post by **JakeYYZ** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:16 am

Page 6 item 13 of the EULA
http://download.microsoft.com/documents ... ddb153.pdf
If you choose to purchase an upgrade version of Windows Vista to upgrade XP,
you will no longer be able to use that version of XP.Either on another system,
or as a dual-boot option. The key will be invalidated, preventing activation.
How do you like it so far?

Walker · Post by **Walker** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:20 am

There you go; isnt google fun:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/3-Hours- ... 2645.shtml

Edit: Add

http://keznews.com/2142_10_reasons_not_to_get_Vista

200hr Wonder · Post by **200hr Wonder** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:40 am

I got a copy dumped on my desk at work today... install and test our software on this I am told.... that was 0900 it is currently 11:43 and Vista just booted for the first time... 2:43 for an install not bad at all.. Still don't know if our software works on it!

goates · Post by **goates** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:35 pm

Unless you need to run a DX10 game or play Blu-ray or HD-DVD movies at full resolution, there isn't really much in Vista for the majority of people. Not to mention all of the activation crap they've added.

Vista, and XP now too, check your system to make sure it's not pirated before installing updates and some MS software. It won't stop you from running pirated versions of Photoshop. On the other hand if you really don't want to pay for software, there are plenty of free options out there that will likely do what you need.

5x5 · Post by **5x5** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:59 pm

Microsoft keeps delivering the pain. Maybe it's time to move on:

Brewguy · Post by **Brewguy** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:18 pm

200hr Wonder wrote:...2:43 for an install not bad at all...

You have GOT to be kidding me!!! 2Hrs 43min for an install is "not bad"? Good god!

The longest installation of any Linux operating system I've tried (and I have tested out many) has been approx. 25 minutes. Man, you've been severely conditioned by MS and their crap ways, if you think that is in any way an acceptable amount of time for installing an OS - never mind "not bad".

Edit:
p.s. There is no need to run the risk of using priated software. Whatever it is that you need software for, there is probably an Open Source program that will do what you need.

cloudcounter · Post by **cloudcounter** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:43 pm

The Vista Gates has is to keep his drones working patches and his customers on a tread mill

CarbIce · Post by **CarbIce** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:48 pm

I've been using VISTA since the busines final release back in November.. Work gives me an MSDN subscription so its all free. Vista is OK but really just XP with some new bells and whistles and a half baked security 'upgrade' As far as I can see it simply asks you to allow spawned or uncertified apps to run.

Compatiability wise, I've had a couple software problems, and a few of my devices don't work and Im just waiting for driver updates. Initially had trouble with my Garmin Mapsource app, but reinstalled and run 'As Administrator' in compatiability mode and its fine now. Most software issues Ive encountered can be fixed by running this way.

Had trouble with the XP Upgrade - it left a ton of crap files all over the filesystem, but the clean install is nice... took only 45min.

If you want to spend your money, go to Office 2007... very slick!

Golden Flyer · Post by **Golden Flyer** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:28 pm

Well, my mother does not know how to do anything on the computer. I've been teaching her a bit and getting her to go on more often to get a hang of it. She started using it more, so I made her a seperate account (there are nude photos of my ex all over and a whole bunch of crap, which I don't want to get rid of.) Her account type is administrative and it asked her if she wanted to do various upgrades and she did. Well, my XP is pirated, so various programs on the computer is just screwed! I think I might get her to purchase a full running version of Vista, with all the programs (not the upgrade) since I am now in need of a new running system with all the programs....

Golden Flyer · Post by **Golden Flyer** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:30 pm

double

Dust Devil · Post by **Dust Devil** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:37 pm

CarbIce wrote:
If you want to spend your money, go to Office 2007... very slick!

I've been running this for a few weeks and I'm starting to like it. Takes some getting used too but it is a killer office suite. I'm also liking IE7. I didn't like it at first but now I use it alot more then firefox. I find firefox crashes way too much and is a dirty memory hog.

Louis · Post by **Louis** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:50 pm

JakeYYZ wrote:Page 6 item 13 of the EULA
http://download.microsoft.com/documents ... ddb153.pdf
If you choose to purchase an upgrade version of Windows Vista to upgrade XP,
you will no longer be able to use that version of XP.Either on another system,
or as a dual-boot option. The key will be invalidated, preventing activation.
How do you like it so far?

Was considering ordering upgrade disk, and running in dual boot with XP MCE.

Given dual boot is out, I might still get the disk (as the offer itself expires in March) but wait until I have no choice to upgrade, and in any case, not before they get their act together somewhat.

Another thing that I dislike about the whole Vista deal is that the express upgrade program offers no path to the "Ultimate" edition, which is the one I'd like, instead of "Home Premium".

Also, could someone tell me if the upgrade disks let you choose between the 32 and 64 bit versions? 64 bit is the main reason (once a couple of issues are solved) I have for an eventual upgrade.

I was actually thinking of a triple boot setup: XP MCE (Already set up and it works), Vista x86 and Vista x64. Being denied this possibility because of activation/licencing shenanigans is one more argument for me to dual boot with Linux instead.

Goodbye,

Louis

JakeYYZ · Post by **JakeYYZ** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:26 pm

All vista disks contain both 32 and 64 bit versions, but you must choose
which to install…one license ….one install.
I’ve been fooling around with Ubuntu 6.10 and I’m beginning to feel comfortable
with it. Star Office is very much the equal to MS Office 2003. If I can find an equivalent
to MS Dynamics and Symantec Win Fax, I’m gone.

Golden Flyer · Post by **Golden Flyer** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:59 pm

So is Vista just an upgrade system or can you get a full package (equipped with all new software/program) to replace whatever is on your computer?

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