China arms both sides

Dex · Post by **Dex** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:05 pm

China financed the Iraq war, has lucrative oil contracts already and is selling arms to both sides of the conflict. War is hell isn't it?

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbc ... 70092/1008

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:11 pm

It's funny when the Americans get a taste of their own medicine. Iran/iraq war anyone? Anyone?

stl

grimey · Post by **grimey** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:06 pm

China is hardly alone in selling arms to essentially anyone who wants them.

hazatude · Post by **hazatude** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:11 pm

I thought that America was the bad guy? China has flaws? WTF?

Dust Devil · Post by **Dust Devil** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:05 pm

sky's the limit wrote:It's funny when the Americans get a taste of their own medicine. Iran/iraq war anyone? Anyone?

stl

I don't think it's funny. but to each their own.

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:39 pm

euphemism
noun [C or U]
a word or phrase used to avoid saying an unpleasant or offensive word:
'Senior citizen' is a euphemism for 'old person'.

In this case DD, "funny" is a euphemism for a host of other words that could be inserted into that sentence.

There is nothing "funny" about people killing each other, pretty sure I've made that abundantly clear on here over the years. However, the Yanks are LAST ones who should be crying foul over something like this. Next thing you know, someone will start an Arms Race with them in order to bankcrupt the country, and they'll howl over that too...

That article on the other hand does make me laugh, particularly the "officials" quotes. Uh, maybe that's the point being made???

stl[/i]

hazatude · Post by **hazatude** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:42 pm

sky's the limit wrote:euphemism
noun [C or U]
a word or phrase used to avoid saying an unpleasant or offensive word:
'Senior citizen' is a euphemism for 'old person'.

In this case DD, "funny" is a euphemism for a host of other words that could be inserted into that sentence.

There is nothing "funny" about people killing each other, pretty sure I've made that abundantly clear on here over the years. However, the Yanks are LAST ones who should be crying foul over something like this. Next thing you know, someone will start an Arms Race with them in order to bankcrupt the country, and they'll howl over that too...

That article on the other hand does make me laugh, particularly the "officials" quotes. Uh, maybe that's the point being made???

stl[/i]

Are not the, "Yanks" our friends and biggest trading partners?

Dash-Ate · Post by **Dash-Ate** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:12 pm

USA UK and Russia are the biggest arms dealers in the world. They will sell land mines, cluster bombs and shock batons (used for torture) to ANYONE. That's called spreading democracy.

hazatude · Post by **hazatude** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:17 pm

Dash-Ate wrote:USA UK and Russia are the biggest arms dealers in the world. They will sell land mines, cluster bombs and shock batons (used for torture) to ANYONE. That's called spreading democracy.

And all the Islamics do is cut the heads off 23 Korean Christains...

The West is the bad guy in all of this

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:24 pm

hazatude wrote:
Dash-Ate wrote:USA UK and Russia are the biggest arms dealers in the world. They will sell land mines, cluster bombs and shock batons (used for torture) to ANYONE. That's called spreading democracy.
And all the Islamics do is cut the heads off 23 Korean Christains...

The West is the bad guy in all of this

Actually Haz,

The West is complicit in so many atrocities it would make your head spin, but go ahead and continue to snuggle up to Uncle Sam... "Good Guys," they are NOT, they just claim to be. And no, I could care less if the US is our biggest anything, their policies both Domestic and International are brutal, and I don't support them at all. The number of people on here who do is disturbing, I can only hope it's because they've not bothered to read a little before typing.

stl

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:58 pm

Well as I have learned from having lived in so many hell holes around the earth war and killing is as much a part of human nature as taking a piss.

Now having seen enough of the different cultures who are involved in these activities I will take the American culture over the radical Islamic culture any day.

But hey, that is only my opinion.

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:31 pm

That's fine and dandy Cat, I'm in full agreement with you. However, last time I checked nobody was holding a gun to my head forcing me to make that choice. I'm not Islamic, and I'm not Christian, I don't care to live in the Middle East or America, there are better ways to do things.

But hey, that's only my opinion.

stl

bmc · Post by **bmc** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:17 am

Living in the Middle East isn't a problem. The Middle East is a large region. And, I hate to shock people, not full of Islamic fundamentalists.

If we're measuring on body count, the Christians are winning with half a million dead in Iraq.

I guess at least the people of Iraq can vote now, so it's worth it, right?

I have lived in the Middle East and I would live there again, long before I move to the states. I'm not that interested in having to arm my house.

Apollo · Post by **Apollo** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:51 am

bmc wrote:Living in the Middle East isn't a problem. The Middle East is a large region. And, I hate to shock people, not full of Islamic fundamentalists.

If we're measuring on body count, the Christians are winning with half a million dead in Iraq.

I guess at least the people of Iraq can vote now, so it's worth it, right?

I have lived in the Middle East and I would live there again, long before I move to the states. I'm not that interested in having to arm my house.

Hear hear! I'd take the Middle East any day over the US... Too many crazy motherfuckers in the US for my liking.

. ._ · Post by **. ._** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:32 am

I wonder which city is statistically safer, Washington D.C. or Tehran.

-istp

Dash-Ate · Post by **Dash-Ate** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:24 am

Weren't the 9-11 hikackers from Saudi and Pakistan?

U.S. Plans New Arms Sales to Gulf Allies

Robin Wright
Washington Post
Saturday July 28, 2007

The Bush administration will announce next week a series of arms deals worth at least $20 billion to Saudi Arabia and five other oil-rich Persian Gulf states as well as new 10-year military aid packages to Israel and Egypt, a move to shore up allies in the Middle East and counter Iran's rising influence, U.S. officials said yesterday.

The arms deals, which include the sales of a variety of sophisticated weaponry, would be the largest negotiated by this administration. The military assistance agreements would provide $30 billion in new U.S. aid to Israel and $13 billion to Egypt over 10 years, the officials said. Both figures represent significant increases in military support.

U.S. officials said the arms sales to Saudi Arabia are expected to include air-to-air missiles as well as Joint Direct Attack Munitions, which turn standard bombs into "smart" precision-guided bombs. Most, but not all, of the arms sales to the six Gulf Cooperation Council countries -- Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain and Oman -- will be defensive, the officials said.

Expat · Post by **Expat** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:09 pm

Selling weapons to Saudi Arabia is the biggest blunder the a*s holes in Washington will do. There is almost a 100% chance that they will face them in the future.

Ditto Pakistan and Egypt.
Time will tell, but the way the US is persuing its foreign policy, they are staking the odds against themselselves.
This seems to be Bush's last effort at getting contracts for his friends. It is so obvious, that it is not even funny.

Nark · Post by **Nark** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:19 pm

Does the actions of one or even one hundred citizens reflect that of their nation?

bmc · Post by **bmc** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:26 pm

istp wrote:I wonder which city is statistically safer, Washington D.C. or Tehran.

-istp

Are you serious? That's a no brainer. Take a guess.

Dust Devil · Post by **Dust Devil** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:36 am

istp wrote:I wonder which city is statistically safer, Washington D.C. or Tehran.

-istp

I wonder which country a woman is most free to do as they please and go to school and have a good job and not be treated as a second class citizen.

seems like a no brainer