Women of Courage

lilfssister · Post by **lilfssister** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:22 pm

Show on Canadian Learning TV (CLT) tonight about early female aviators.

flyinphil · Post by **flyinphil** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:05 pm

meh....no thanks.

I respect women for many reasons. Flying isn't one of them.

edit: The above was posted in haste as I was going out the door and but it provoked interesting responses so I'll let it stand.. I have four daughters, two of which fly for a living. Keep throwing the crap. I desrve it!

lilfssister · Post by **lilfssister** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:10 pm

Then I guess you can skip what turned out to be a show about war time ferry pilots.

Expat · Post by **Expat** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:08 am

Did they talk about those actually involved in combat flying?

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:38 pm

flyinphil wrote:meh....no thanks.

I respect women for many reasons. Flying isn't one of them.

Hey Phil,

Piss off.

stl

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:47 pm

I respect women for many reasons. Flying isn't one of them.

You obviously have not flown with many women pilots.

Gender has sweet fu.k all to do with flying ability.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:49 pm

Quote:

I respect women for many reasons. Flying isn't one of them.

You obviously have not flown with many women pilots.

Gender has sweet fu.k all to do with flying ability.

There you go girls..my 8000th post.

lilfssister · Post by **lilfssister** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:51 pm

Better than an ass picture any day Cat

sky's the limit · Post by **sky's the limit** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:52 pm

Cat Driver wrote:Quote:

I respect women for many reasons. Flying isn't one of them.

You obviously have not flown with many women pilots.

Gender has sweet fu.k all to do with flying ability.
There you go girls..my 8000th post.

Question for you Cat:

You got more hours in the Logbook, or on Avcanada....lol

8000... Whew.

stl

bmc · Post by **bmc** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:05 am

flyinphil wrote:meh....no thanks.

I respect women for many reasons. Flying isn't one of them.

Name one reason.

niss · Post by **niss** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:44 am

I think the history of female aviators is quite deep and impressive.

Maybe we should give phil the benefit of the doubt and assume he meant that because gender plays no role in flying skill why should he respect a woman for flying any more than a man?

LH · Post by LH » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:14 pm

Well gentlemen my Mom was a wartime Ferry Pilot. She flew for the WASP's and logged bags of hours in B-17's, B-24's, P-39's, P-51's, etc, etc. I have access to the log books to proove it and when I don't they reside in a Museum to those gals that exists in Washington State. I logged some of those hours with her because she was pregnant with me until they found out and grounded her.

In our house growing-up, there were four pilots.......me, my brother, my father and my mother and WE ALL knew who the best cook and the best pilot was in our home........the lady cooking over there. She also taught me and my brother how to fly.

Combat? My mother tried for that too, but was turned down and only allowed to fly aircraft into Dorval from the States or to Alaska. Ya see, even back then women didn't know how to fly or fight. Chew on that for a while gents because she was but one of hundreds of females who did the same during WW2.

lilfssister · Post by **lilfssister** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:28 pm

Thanks for sharing that, LH. Great story!

flyinggirl · Post by **flyinggirl** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:03 pm

Oh boy.

meh....no thanks.
I respect women for many reasons. Flying isn't one of them.

Driving Rain · Post by **Driving Rain** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:55 pm

http://www.acesofww2.com/soviet/Women.htm

hazatude · Post by **hazatude** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:03 pm

"Eileen Vollick. Born Wiarton Ontario 1908. Fascinated by aviation from childhood this daring young woman enrolled in a Hamilton, Ontario, flying school On March 31 1928 she passed the federal aviation test and become the first Canadian woman to earn a private pilot's certificate. Eileen soon moved to New Your, U.S.A. to make her life but she had opened the doors of aviation to Canadian women who would embrace flying careers as licensed pilots."

flyinphil · Post by **flyinphil** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:10 am

Just came back to this one and I suppose my wording didnt accurately reflect my thoughts. Flying an airplane is just a learned eye/hand coordination skill. I fly with many women but expect no more or less of them than any man because they fly. Nor do I respect them any more because they fly.

The real story isn't women flying airplanes, it is the oppression that women sufferred through even in recent history. I have more respect for those that fought front line for equal rights than for those that flew airplanes. Sorry if that offends you.

Rudder Bug · Post by **Rudder Bug** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:36 am

Here's a good reason why there should be more ladies flying : airways are 8 miles wide!!!!

(suicidal post, gulp)

niss · Post by **niss** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:48 am

flyinphil wrote: Just came back to this one and I suppose my wording didnt accurately reflect my thoughts. Flying an airplane is just a learned eye/hand coordination skill. I fly with many women but expect no more or less of them than any man because they fly. Nor do I respect them any more because they fly.

The real story isn't women flying airplanes, it is the oppression that women sufferred through even in recent history. I have more respect for those that fought front line for equal rights than for those that flew airplanes. Sorry if that offends you.

I was right I was right nyanya nyanya!

Rudderbug wrote:Here's a good reason why there should be more ladies flying : airways are 8 miles wide!!!!

(suicidal post, gulp)

Expat · Post by **Expat** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:24 am

Driving Rain wrote:http://www.acesofww2.com/soviet/Women.htm

Thanks for the link. That is what I was referring to. I have seen a lot of WW2 footage on Russian TV.