Sea Shepherd Conservation Society

[bilko]

Where to begin.

Do Canadians actually like this guy Paul Watson? Does anyone here actually know of anyone who contributes cash to this guy?

I think the trial of the crew arrested should be by jury and held at Cape Breton.

[2R]

He belongs to a group of subversive troublemakers who are funded by strange brown envelopes .Some would guess that the money is coming from foreign interests. He is one of those who was friendly with the anti-logging tree spiking enviro-terrorist protests on the west coast even though he lives in a large log home in Gibsons .After the logging protests drove the share prices through the floor of Canadian owned logging companies like Mac-Blo .The Foreigners bought out the failing logging companies and their two hundred year logging leases and there has not been a peep from the foreign sources funded anti-logging mouthpieces since the large foreign owned companies bought out the Canadian interests on the west coast .
Some of my logging friends at first were sceptical but after seeing what has happened in central america why would anyone think that some of the criminals in business would not do the same to Canada as their companies have done throughout the rest of the world.
But why are they trying to destroy the economy of the maritimes ??? Is there oil there or something ???A poor job hungry area might just signed up for less than a properous nation that has a healthy economy .

[Walker]

Do I recall correctly that these guys used limpet mines and sunk a few ships in the 70s?

“By arresting us — a European-registered vessel, a European crew — in this way, that pretty much ensures the bill banning seal products in Europe will be passed,” Watson told media.
“They did exactly what we thought they might do, but I didn’t think would be stupid enough to do.”

Ahhh so it was basically a press stunt.... understood.....

[Siddley Hawker]

Watson is on record as saying the optimum population of the planet is one million people. Ok buddy, lead by example and do a Jim Jones with yourself and the rest of your disciples.

[North Shore]

On the other hand, as someone else has stated before on another thread here wrt environmental organisations, without groups like Sea Shepherd, business and commercial interests would be busy wiping out natural resources and wildlife left, right and centre, with no thought whatsoever of the future.

[Hickory Stick]

http://www.lifeinthefastlane.ca/barbari ... fbeat-news

Read what is contained in the link.

Trial for Mr.Watson and his crew on what grounds and for what reason? This seal slaughter is pointless. When was the last time you went in to the super market and bought any seal meat? This is a savage and idiotic practice that I for one loath. Another government program where my tax money is being spent on garbage. This is a way of life that should be seen for what it is, butchery pure and simple.

Won’t the Canadian Seafood Boycott destroy people’s livelihoods?

It could, but it doesn't need to. The Government of Canada and the sealers could stop the Canadian Seafood Boycott tomorrow, by ending the commercial seal hunt. The economic effect of the Canadian Seafood Boycott is under their control. Also it is worth remembering that sealing is an off-season activity of little value. Even in Newfoundland, where more than 90% of sealers reside, revenues from the hunt account for less than 0.09% of the province’s Gross Domestic Product, and only 2.1% of the landed value of the Newfoundland fishery. If we look at the Department of Fisheries and Oceans' own propaganda which inflates the value of the seal hunt, we see that 15,000 people earned $16 million, that's $1,067 on average per person. The 15,000 figure is interesting. Compare it to Newfoundland fishing employment data, it suggests that almost every fisherman in Newfoundland must go sealing.

[Epsilon]

This article is the biggest load of crap i ever read. Hunters are not even allowed to kill young white seals like on the pictures. Groups like sea shepperd like to take pictures of them because the're cute and innocent.

[Inverted2]

Id just love it if someone "accidently" torpedoed their boat in international waters!

[Hickory Stick]

It would be equally funny if someone torpedoed sealing vessels.

[CID]

No matter what we think of the seal hunt, we must remember that the sealers were doing nothing illegal and they have as much right as anyone else working within the law, to do it safely.

If the offending ship was in fact endangering the sealer's lives, it's our right to defend them.

I'm all for activism and freedom of speach but this is just terrorism.

Trial for Mr.Watson and his crew on what grounds and for what reason? This seal slaughter is pointless. When was the last time you went in to the super market and bought any seal meat? This is a savage and idiotic practice that I for one loath. Another government program where my tax money is being spent on garbage. This is a way of life that should be seen for what it is, butchery pure and simple.

You can say that about just about any industry that processes live animals. I guess it depends on your perspective.

[Hickory Stick]

No matter what we think of the seal hunt, we must remember that the sealers were doing nothing illegal and they have as much right as anyone else working within the law, to do it safely.

Just because something is legal does not mean it is not dumb. Case in point smoking.

[Wilbur]

What is the problem with hunting and harvesting seals?

[niss]

No matter what we think of the seal hunt, we must remember that the sealers were doing nothing illegal and they have as much right as anyone else working within the law, to do it safely.

Just because something is legal does not mean it is not dumb. Case in point smoking.

I sure hope you are a vegan, cause otherwise you are a hypocrite.

Why not campaign to end the killing of all furbearing animals? Or is it just because the seals are the cutest?

[Widow]

Don't the seals become a problem for the fish stock? Isn't that why we allow the hunting, as a form of culling? If they weren't culled, what would happen to the fishing industry and Maritime economy?

[Dust Devil]

Id just love it if someone "accidently" torpedoed their boat in international waters!

I'd tolerate that

[Hickory Stick]

Don't the seals become a problem for the fish stock? Isn't that why we allow the hunting, as a form of culling? If they weren't culled, what would happen to the fishing industry and Maritime economy?

Since when are seals the problem, the collapse of the fish stocks is man made.

I sure hope you are a vegan, cause otherwise you are a hypocrite.

As a matter of fact I am, and soon we will all be except for the wealthy or those who grow their own meat for slaughter. A recent UN report has stated that due to the fact that price of many food stuffs have doubled now more than ever there is going to be a problem in feeding the hungry. I forget the exact figure but, it takes approx 6 times as much energy to bring a cow to market then we get out of it. Its a no brainer then as the world population increases the price of food will increase. There will come a point where it will become unsustainble to eat meat.

Why not campaign to end the killing of all furbearing animals? Or is it just because the seals are the cutest?

Dido, why not stop the slaugter of animals for fur? Notice I said fur, not food. Although I may disagree with your choice of protein, I understand the desire for meat, notice I say desire for meat not need.

Let me rephrase your question so that you will understand Niss. Why not campaign to end the killing of all Palestinian bearing animals? Or is it just beacuse the Israelis are the cutest?

[niss]

Let me rephrase your question so that you will understand Niss. Why not campaign to end the killing of all Palestinian bearing animals? Or is it just beacuse the Israelis are the cutest?

Is this really neccessary? Why the need to drag another political situation into your hippy lovefest?

[CID]

Don't the seals become a problem for the fish stock? Isn't that why we allow the hunting, as a form of culling? If they weren't culled, what would happen to the fishing industry and Maritime economy?

That's debateable. Seals weren't threatening the fish stock in the old days when the Grand Banks were overstuffed with fish. Let's not kid ourselves and take the focus away from what is really depleating the fish stock: overfishing.

Just because something is legal does not mean it is not dumb. Case in point smoking.

I don't think it's right to threaten someone who was smoking with physical harm either. This brings up another point however. What one person finds "dumb" or unacceptable, may be just fine to others. You think sealing is "dumb", fine. You're entitled to your opinion.

If you don't like the law, see if you can change it. If not, leave the law abiding people alone.

By the way niss, I wouldn't waste to much time discussing things with vegans. I've wrangled with a few of these self righteous twits. They apparently have all the answers. We don't "need" meat. We just need plant protein. (Oh yah...and a bunch of B12 shots every few weeks because we don't eat meat)

[niss]

By the way niss, I wouldn't waste to much time discussing things with vegans. I've wrangled with a few of these self righteous twits. They apparently have all the answers. We don't "need" meat. We just need plant protein. (Oh yah...and a bunch of B12 shots every few weeks because we don't eat meat)

To paraphrase one of my favorite comedians:

"You know why we have these beautiful pearly white chompers? Its for tearing flesh from bone. The way I see it, vegans by law have their teeth removed, so at the very least I know I am talking to a complete asshole."

[Hickory Stick]

As always Niss Priceless. Your intelect is inversly proportional to the number of useless posts to your credit.

[Dust Devil]

As always Niss Priceless. Your intelect is inversly proportional to the number of useless posts to your credit.

I find Niss's posts to be very tolerable

[niss]

As always Niss Priceless. Your intelect is inversly proportional to the number of useless posts to your credit.

If you want to get into a pissing match on usless posts go right ahead. I would like to ask though why you thought it prudent to post a link showing cute cudly white coats that tear at your heart yet all the dead seals were clearly older and theirfor legal kills? Perhapse to inapropriately villanize the hunters for killing the cuddly wuddly widdle white seals? Or what about that nasty hakapik?

The main method of killing seals is with a hakapik — a heavy wooden club with a hammer head and metal hook on the end.The use of guns is also allowed, but the hakapik is for some unknown barbaric reason preferred. The hammer head is used to crush the skull, while the hook is used to move the carcass.

Well the unknown barbaric reason it is preferred is actually quite well known:

Although it is often claimed that the hakapik is an inhumane hunting tool, it is favored by sealers because it allows them to kill the seal without damaging the pelt. Also, with a rifle the sealer runs the risk of hurting, but not killing the seal, causing them to flee, wounded, back into the ocean to die slowly. Further, studies by American veterinary scientists on the use of the Hakapik on the seal hunt carried out on Pribilof Islands of Alaska suggested that it is an efficient tool designed to kill the animal quickly and humanely when used correctly.[2] A report by members of the Canadian Medical Veterinary Association in September 2002 corroborated this claim.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakapik

And concidering that the the hakapik picture in the blog is the exact same as the one in the wikipedia link I am going to assume that is where it is from, you would think that he would have read the whole article instead of just looking for pictures of mean looking pointy things.

But I will admit it is a great way to use grotesque and unrelated pictures to further your cause. I mean it is rather hard to eat my veal parmigean after looking into those big brown eyes of that calf at the farm, but at the end of the day that dead baby cow is oh so tender and oh so tasty.

I am sure that the un educated people your post targeted were thinking how horrible it is to kill such cute fluffy seals, and maybe someone should put a stop to it. I guess if they knew that it is illegal to kill them white ones that would almost make them educated and more likely to instinctivly regurgitate the bullshit you're trying to feed them. Oh and as far as trying to sensationalise the Barbaric Blood-Letting Seal Hunt with all the beautiful red blood and guts on the pristine white ice shots? I was under the impression that all animals bleed when killed. Unless you propose that the sealers actually take the time to set live traps, take the seals and say overdose them with morphene, so as to spare the media the horror of blood, I suggest you accept that death isnt exactly a nice clean fun fest.

I certainly hope that you are also going after the polar bears aswell, afterall they get blood all over the white snow and their white fur! Also, I dont think they are too concerned with eating it while its alive or making sure they dont get the white ones.

[Wilbur]

Hickory Stick, so what's wrong with hunting seals?

[Hickory Stick]

Ok, ill bite. Killing when you do not have to is wrong. Its one thing if you are doing it for survival and quite another because you want a fur coat.

Niss, I did not bother to read all of your post as it simply bored me and frankly once I read the veal parmigan thing, well it was typical Niss drivel. I do appreciate the fact that you are educating the masses as I obviously failed to do. I gotta hand it to ya though, most people would not look into an animals eye before eating it. Anyway, off to eat my pork...I mean soy imitation pork.

[Siddley Hawker]

Some years ago a Famous Actress and animal rights activist appeared on the cover of a Famous Magazine holding a white coat pup. I use 'animal rights activist' with some trepidation since said Famous Actress later de-nutted her neighbour's donkey one day when the neighbour was out of town. It seems the Famous Actress became incensed when she caught the poor animal doing the nasty with her ass. Zoot âlors! But I digress.

The ice front that year was about 50 miles east of St. Anthony NF. The Famous Actress had arrived the night before at my location in a private jet, ill suited to visit the killing grounds, so a helicopter was required to transport her to the ice field where the white coats were being slaughtered left and right. The nearest airport that could accommodate the jet was Blanc Sablon, with the apt - in this case - identifier BS. The BS airport at the time boasted a 3500 x 100 foot gravel strip. I had been in there the evening before with a DC-3, so the crew met with me to discuss the runway condition. I advised them to proceed at their own risk since the runway was short and mostly ice and hard-packed snow covered. It was ok for the DC-3, but marginal for their aircraft. In my opinion.

The following morning I headed back to BS with a DC-3 freighter. On arrival, I found a motley crew, including a camerman and a Guy From Greenpeace assembled at the terminal to welcome the Famous Actress. It seems my sage advice had been ignored and the wishes of the Famous Actress took priority. While we were unloading, the jet appeared overhead, performed a careful circuit and began his approach. The pilot did a masterful job, and if the runway had had keys painted on it, he would have planted the airplane on them. The parking area was about 500 feet from the end of the arrival threshold, and the Falcon went by at a great rate of knots in a cloud of snow. One wag expressed the consensus of us watching when he opined 'E ain't gonna get 'er stopped!" We were all wrong. The last couple hundred feet before the end of the landing runway was bare gravel, and he used every inch of it.

The Famous Actress, no doubt blissfully unaware of her near catastrophe, stepped from her ride to the whirr and click of media cameras. The helicopter was ready, the camerman was ready, the Guy From Greenpeace was ready, in short the mission to the killing grounds was a go. Une petite mi-noot. The Famous Actress enquired where she would go if she felt the need to 'faire pipi' on the ice field. The reply was, 'Behind the nearest iceberg.' Zoot âlors!
Not for her to faire pipi in the open. Disgusting. It now seemed the entire trip had been in vain. Famous Actress was adamant she wasn't going anywhere without a place to take a wizz. It looked like the whole shebang would have to be cancelled, when our company ticket agent spoke up. It seems that he had a white coat pup from the year before that had been stuffed by some inbred fecker, no doubt with bad teeth, of an amateur taxidermist from l'Anse Eau Claire NF. Famous Actress could have her picture taken with this amazing likeness - for a small fee of course - if that met with her approval. No sooner said than done. The stuffed seal was produced and pronounced unbelieveably life like. Now where to take the picture. There was no shortage of sea ice in BS that year. Just down the road from the airport there was a pretty cove called l'Anse aux Dunes, frozen solid with ice three feet thick and with raftered floes worthy of Greenland.

Famous Actress, the camera man and the GFG all traipsed off, seal in hand to the little cove. In a few minutes the entire shoot was over, and in two weeks the picture of the Famous Actress holding a darling white coat pup appeared on the cover of the Famous Magazine for all the world to see.

No doubt some of you are puzzled. WTF is he telling us this for they ask. For two reasons, really. One is to show that those dumb, inbred, uneducated feckers can pull the wool over the eyes of every educated prick who reads a certain Famous Magazine, and two, give an example of just what hypocrital sob's the animal rights organizations really are.

Here's a reply from another board where one poster calls sealers in general and Newfs in particular, uneducated, ignorant, inbred feckers with bad teeth. I'll qualify that statement about animal rights activists a little. There are some who genuinely care about inhumane treatment of animals, but they are greatly outnumbered by those for whom animal rights mean nothing more than lining their pockets at the expense of the gullible.