Harmony

EyeOh · Post by **EyeOh** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:51 pm

Anyone know if Harmony is planning to lower thier minimums in light of AC?

yycflyguy · Post by **yycflyguy** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:07 pm

Or more specifically their restrictive requirement of 1000 hours on 705 turbojet operations.....

Arthur Q · Post by **Arthur Q** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:09 am

No not in the near future. Because of "expected" rapid growth the need for quick upgrades requires pilots to be of a fairly high experience level.

yycflyguy · Post by **yycflyguy** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:14 am

If all a candidate is missing is the 1000 hours turbojet 705 time it seems to me that he/she could attain that time in a year and a half at the company. Isn't that considered a quick upgrade?

boeingboy · Post by **boeingboy** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:47 am

Yes - but their insurance would be through the roof - if they could get it at all.

Thats what drives the minimum times.

yycflyguy · Post by **yycflyguy** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:27 pm

Can you explain to me how other airlines such as Westjet, Canjet, Jazz and Air Canada do not require the 1000 hours 705? I am not sure how airline insurance works but if 4 out of 5 can insure new hires without it I would assume that Harmony's insurance policy shouldn't be radically different. I was thinking it was more of a weeding requirement than for insurance....

Treetopflyer · Post by **Treetopflyer** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 5:40 pm

I know lots of guys with a ton more than 1000 hrs 705 jet who'd LOVE to get on but don't get calls. So I don't think it'll change soon.

Navajo-dude · Post by **Navajo-dude** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:16 am

Boeing Boy is wrong.

RB211 · Post by **RB211** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:49 pm

boeingboy wrote:Yes - but their insurance would be through the roof - if they could get it at all.

Thats what drives the minimum times.

Not true, to my understanding. The time requirements have to do with training. If a pilot has jet time with a 705 operator then it is a Level C program, otherwise it is Level D. That and the potential for quick upgrades.

Lastly, they list it as a requirement because they can get it I guess. The question will be for how long?

Jaques Strappe · Post by **Jaques Strappe** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:21 am

Arthur Q wrote:No not in the near future. Because of "expected" rapid growth the need for quick upgrades requires pilots to be of a fairly high experience level.

A 1000 hours with a 705 operator is considered a high experience level for a quick upgrade to the left seat of a 757!? Think I will avoid flying on Harmony.

pika · Post by **pika** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:54 am

A 1000 hours with a 705 operator is considered a high experience level for a quick upgrade to the left seat of a 757!? Think I will avoid flying on Harmony.

I think the idea there is 1000 HOURS WITH A 705 OPERATOR which means 1000 hours of jet time prior to an upgrade.