Foreign pilots : Creating Database of qualified Canadians

[Gilles Hudicourt]

I have about 35 Resumes to date, 6 of them are 737NG rated pilots. A couple have 737A or B time.

[Max_Diff]

Gilles,

When do you plan on sending in all of these resumes? Both SWG and CJ have already applied for LMO's, guranteed.

Where is your union ALPA in all of this...they gonna help you send these in?

Keep up the good fight!

Max

[Gilles Hudicourt]

Gilles,

When do you plan on sending in all of these resumes? Both SWG and CJ have already applied for LMO's, guranteed.

Where is your union ALPA in all of this...they gonna help you send these in?

Keep up the good fight!

Max

For Canjet you may be right, but Sunwing needs to post a help wanted ad for two weeks before they can apply. The ad runs from Sept 11 to Sept 25, right here an AvCanada. They should put in their request in a few days. I will likely submit the list very soon, probably a week or so.

Gilles

[newcomer]

Gilles,you left the second part of the question unanswered.

I appreciate what you're trying to do and thank you for it. But what the @&$# is ALPA doing?
Seems to me that it should be their concern as well. What's the use for members to pay their membership fees then? It should be one of their number one battles,yet we don't hear much from them...
ALPA's power and lawyers could provide us with much needed help me think.

[loopy]

Gilles, I appreciate what you are doing. I answered your call for resumes even though I don't have a 737NG type rating and my only airline PPC is expired, because I appreciate what you are tring to do. Without a current airline type, I would not get a sniff overseas.

While these companies are supposed to have reciprocal agreements, the pilots brought over here vs sent over there in the off season are hugely imbalanced.

Just to bang a drum I am a fan of: this is the type of thing that a national association of professional pilots should be lobbying against. I don't see this as something the college would tackle.

[Scuba_Steve]

Gilles,you left the second part of the question unanswered.

I appreciate what you're trying to do and thank you for it. But what the @&$# is ALPA doing?
Seems to me that it should be their concern as well. What's the use for members to pay their membership fees then? It should be one of their number one battles,yet we don't hear much from them...
ALPA's power and lawyers could provide us with much needed help me think.

I think this issue transcends one Union, it should include all unions, all employers and all pilots in Canada who oppose this.. Its our profession and our industry this effects not just Air Transat or ALPA.

So the question should be;

What is ACPA, ALPA, CAW et al doing about this?

They are likely lobbying behind the scene to get this resolved.

Like you I would appreciate more communication regarding what is going on.

Cheers

[Gilles Hudicourt]

Gilles,you left the second part of the question unanswered.

I appreciate what you're trying to do and thank you for it. But what the @&$# is ALPA doing?
Seems to me that it should be their concern as well. What's the use for members to pay their membership fees then? It should be one of their number one battles,yet we don't hear much from them...
ALPA's power and lawyers could provide us with much needed help me think.

I'll have to let ALPA reply in their own name. What I can tell you though is ALPA's legal office in YOW has been very helpful and cooperative with me in my little crusade. They always pick up the phone when I call for info or advice and they've helped me a lot by sharing what they knew about the issues I had.

Gilles

[Gilles Hudicourt]

Hello People. I originally asked that only pilots with medium jet time who had applied to Canjet and Sunwing send us your resumes. Now I request that all pilots with command time on 705 operations and who applied to Sunwing and Canjet send us your resumes.

The database I am building is to demonstrate to HRSDC who provide Sunwing and Canjet with LMOs to hire foreign pilots that there are qualified pilots in Canada and that these jobs should not be given on a platter to foreigners. Sunwing and Canjet claim to HRSDC that no qualified pilots applied for the jobs. Please send me your resumes and I will send them to CIC and to HRSDC to show them that there are qualified pilots in Canada who applied for the jobs and who were were overlooked by these companies.

Please send your resumes to noforeignpilots@gmail.com. Name the file with your first name and last name like GillesHudicourt.pdf or Gilles.Hudicourt.docx

Your resume will be sent to HRSDC and CIC and no one else. The files will be deleted once they are communicated to these offices.

To those who already sent me your resumes, I thank you for your trust.

Gilles Hudicourt

[1201checkin]

I agree with hiring Canadians over foreign don’t get me wrong. It is sad that transat is laying off over 50 guys many of them my friends. Now Can Jet works for Air Transat or provides lift or whatever you want to call it. Why not try and fix CAN JET which is working directly with Air Transat. Was CAN JET not the first company to introduce this type of business model. Are you guys not both with ALPA. The guys that get layed of from transat cant they go to Canjet instead of Canjet bringing in foreign workers. Note to self CanJet did do work for Sunwing this summer. I saw it with my own eyes. Sunwing flight number with a canjet airplane. I feel if this company’s where not so greedy and respected one another that maybe all these charters company’s would all be better and more secure. Always that guy though willing to do it for lower really screws things up. Maybe this winter i can go to varedaro for a week for 199 bucks all in. Or better yet lets have no assigned seating and less cabin baggage maybe i will get it for 179 all in. Kinda pathetic but its coming.

[fivemoreminutes]

Both Air Transat and Canjet provide a service for the tour company Transat At. Theses airlines are not affiliated in any way what so ever.

[ea306]

Other than they both have the same single customer.....
And it's pilots are represented by the same union.

[Gilles Hudicourt]

To all those who sent me your résumés in the past 24 hours and have not gotten a reply from me, no worries it's just that I had to go flying. I also had to squeeze in my medical yesterday. You'll all hear from me and I will probably be sending your résumés to HRSDC on Friday morning, once I have them all sorted and organized.

Gilles

[Gilles Hudicourt]

Other than they both have the same single customer.....
And it's pilots are represented by the same union.

Unions don't run airlines and make decisions for the airlines. They just try to protect their members. ALPA did help Canjet's pilots. It's thanks to ALPA that foreign pilots at Canjet are all F/Os and are at the bottom of the seniority list. It's thanks to ALPA that foreign pilots pay union dues when in Canada and work within Canjet's collective agreement. And this does not change the fact that ALPA opposes the hiring of foreign pilots through LMOs like Canjet does.

As for Transat asking Canjet for favors like hiring furloughed AT pilots, such favors may come attached with certain strings.

[ea306]

Agreed.
Unions do not employ. Companies do.
Unions do not hire. Companies do.

[mbav8r]

What is ACPA, ALPA, CAW et al doing about this?
Scuba_Steve, I can assure you ALPA Canada is very active in this fight, through the past couple years they have made presentations to the government. This is the latest I've seen, it's from our MEC meeting update.
"Canada Board President Captain Dan Adamus briefed pilots on the number one priority of the Canada Board: the hiring of foreign pilots by airlines in Canada. He specifically addressed the three avenues available to organizations that want to hire foreign pilots and the agencies involved."

[loopy]

I applaud what Gilles and ALPA are doing. The cynic in me is making the assumption that to Minister Rait and HRH Harper, any labour group making a point might as well be asking them to personally sign a membership card in the communist party.

Like I said, the synic in me. I believe this is the work that should be done by unions and associations. What is being done in many cases by the Tory regime is unconstitutional, IMHO.

[Scuba_Steve]

What is ACPA, ALPA, CAW et al doing about this?
Scuba_Steve, I can assure you ALPA Canada is very active in this fight, through the past couple years they have made presentations to the government. This is the latest I've seen, it's from our MEC meeting update.
"Canada Board President Captain Dan Adamus briefed pilots on the number one priority of the Canada Board: the hiring of foreign pilots by airlines in Canada. He specifically addressed the three avenues available to organizations that want to hire foreign pilots and the agencies involved."

Hey thanks for the update buddy I've read the minutes from the senate transportation committee meeting where Mr. Adamus slams the use of foreign pilots. If you read the line below my question you'd see I answered it myself...

The point in trying to make is that it's not the job or problem of one union, but all players including the employers like AC, WJ, TS etc

Cheers

[KMAC]

Keep up the great work, Gilles.

[Gilles Hudicourt]

I've been collecting the Resumes of people who applied to Canjet and Sunwing for a week now.

I have on Hand the Resumes of about 50 pilots who flew medium or heavy jets, 6 of which are rated on the 737NG, plus nine others who flew 705 operations.

We'll now see how these can best be put to use to stop this foreign pilot nightmare.

[Gilles Hudicourt]

To all those who sent me your Resumes:

If you get an interview by either company or are hired by either company, please let me know. The Resumes you sent me are to show to the government that there are many qualified and experienced pilots in Canada that need to be hired before they can allow these companies to hire foreigners, so if you are hired by either company, I need to remove your Resume from the list.

Thanks

Gilles Hudicourt

[Spaceshuttle]

I would say if your name is on the list, being hired won't be an issue...

[Gilles Hudicourt]

This message is to confirm that all the Resumes of pilots that had applied to Canjet and/or Sunwing and that were sent to me were printed and delivered in paper form this afternoon to the Director of the Temporary Workers Program at HRSDC.

Now we have to give them a few days to digest all that information and assess its implications. Let's hope for the best.

Gilles Hudicourt

[Rhys Perraton]

Give it a rest, who cares, least of all the Canadian bucket and spade brigade who don't care who flies them as long as it's CHEAP.

[Takeoff OK]

Give it a rest, who cares, least of all the Canadian bucket and spade brigade who don't care who flies them as long as it's CHEAP.

Shhhhhhhhhhhh....... You're an asshat, but you don't realize it. Don't worry; your secret is safe with me.

[monkey]

Hey Gilles,

You often post a lot of information about Sunwing, regarding how many foreign workers come over, how many Sunwing pilots go over to Europe, about the new lower paying "b" scale pilots at Sunwing, the logistics of training so many Canadian pilots vs foreign help etc etc. Not just in this post but in multiple other posts. Where do you get your information? Hearsay or do you have fact?

Reason I'm asking is you seem to be focused in on one airline in particular and there are others in the Canadian market that have similar business practices that don't seem to be the target of your attention. Any reason why Sunwing?