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Any Type rated 737 Canadian pilots still out there ?

#1 Post by Gilles Hudicourt » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:32 pm

I heard a rumour stating that when Air Transat put out an ad for Seasonal B737 Pilots, including Captains, that no B737 rated Captains applied. Can this be true ?

Any type B737 type rated FOs out there ?
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#2 Post by ahramin » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:31 pm

Where was the ad? Was it well publicized and circulated? I know there was a discussion on here about it, but not everyone reads AvCanada.

Also was it restricted to current 737 Captains? I have a hard time seeing someone with a full time 737 job being interested in a part time 737 job. Maybe a WJ or Sunwing pilot at the bottom of the list who wants to go back to fire bombing or something.
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#3 Post by frog » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:46 pm

Correct me if I am wrong but I remember an ad on the company website, but is gone now, I don't think it was anywhere else and I don't think it was there very long.
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#4 Post by Mapleflt » Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:31 pm

I'm not sure the type rating should be a qualifier, unless your "poaching" for currency. A type rating is of little value after 2 years since an initial course will be required anywa, IFR currency yes but type rating !!!!
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#5 Post by Gilles Hudicourt » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:01 pm

I should have been more precise, with current PPCs.......
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#6 Post by V2plus10 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:05 pm

ahramin wrote:Where was the ad? Was it well publicized and circulated? I know there was a discussion on here about it, but not everyone reads AvCanada.

Also was it restricted to current 737 Captains? I have a hard time seeing someone with a full time 737 job being interested in a part time 737 job. Maybe a WJ or Sunwing pilot at the bottom of the list who wants to go back to fire bombing or something.
I'm sure he's not referring to west jet guys, more like the Canadian North, Enerjet type of guys.
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#7 Post by ahramin » Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:14 pm

Good examples.
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#8 Post by Commonwealth » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:47 pm

FO's only, according to the Transat website.
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#9 Post by buzzjob » Thu Aug 13, 2015 6:19 am

A friend of mine applied for a seasonal Capt position and has not heard a thing. He is very experienced and current on the NG...
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#10 Post by tbaylx » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:33 am

Not correct. I know of at least one that did and heard nothing :)
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#11 Post by Dh8Classic » Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:28 pm

Gilles Hudicourt wrote:I heard a rumour stating that when Air Transat put out an ad for Seasonal B737 Pilots, including Captains, that no B737 rated Captains applied. Can this be true ?
buzzjob wrote:A friend of mine applied for a seasonal Capt position and has not heard a thing. He is very experienced and current on the NG...
tbaylx wrote:Not correct. I know of at least one that did and heard nothing
Just out of curiousity, a question for Buzzjob and tbaylx,

Were these guys bilingual?
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#12 Post by buzzjob » Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:32 am

Dh8Classic wrote:
Gilles Hudicourt wrote:I heard a rumour stating that when Air Transat put out an ad for Seasonal B737 Pilots, including Captains, that no B737 rated Captains applied. Can this be true ?
buzzjob wrote:A friend of mine applied for a seasonal Capt position and has not heard a thing. He is very experienced and current on the NG...
tbaylx wrote:Not correct. I know of at least one that did and heard nothing
Just out of curiousity, a question for Buzzjob and tbaylx,

Were these guys bilingual?
Not bilingual...shouldn't matter, I know a few TS pilots who are not
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#13 Post by rayban » Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:46 am

To answer your question of "any type rated 737 fo's out there the answer is yes. I'm current on the 737-200 and speak both E/F. Despite sending resumes to 737 operators in Canada the best I can find are B1900 positions that pay somewhat well.
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#14 Post by tbaylx » Fri Aug 14, 2015 9:30 am

Dh8Classic wrote:
Gilles Hudicourt wrote:I heard a rumour stating that when Air Transat put out an ad for Seasonal B737 Pilots, including Captains, that no B737 rated Captains applied. Can this be true ?
buzzjob wrote:A friend of mine applied for a seasonal Capt position and has not heard a thing. He is very experienced and current on the NG...
tbaylx wrote:Not correct. I know of at least one that did and heard nothing
Just out of curiousity, a question for Buzzjob and tbaylx,

Were these guys bilingual?
A bit rusty but yes, not that it should matter enough. We just figured they grabbed a bunch of the laid off Canjet guys. Disappointed to hear they didn't' hire anyone.
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#15 Post by godsrcrazy » Sat Aug 15, 2015 7:57 am

Gilles Hudicourt wrote:I heard a rumour stating that when Air Transat put out an ad for Seasonal B737 Pilots, including Captains, that no B737 rated Captains applied. Can this be true ?

Any type B737 type rated FOs out there ?

Looks to me like someone is trying to make a case to bring in foreign pilots. I advertised no one applied our the ones that did were not qualified.
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#16 Post by rudder » Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:56 am

I put up a post asking what terms and conditions (including pay) would be for a seasonal DEC at AT. No responses. Perhaps the terms don't exist yet.

And it would appear from some posts that AT ALPA did NOT approve seasonal DEC

So does it not appear that AT was putting the cart before the horse by placing an ad for seasonal DEC?
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#17 Post by Scuba_Steve » Sun Aug 16, 2015 5:30 am

The seasonal thing is pretty new here and very much a work in progress...

And French is not a requirement despite the add. Lots of Anglos here.

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#18 Post by rudder » Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:38 am

Scuba_Steve wrote:The seasonal thing is pretty new here and very much a work in progress...

And French is not a requirement despite the add. Lots of Anglos here.

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Have any seasonal DEC been hired at AT?
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#19 Post by Scuba_Steve » Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:58 pm

rudder wrote:
Scuba_Steve wrote:The seasonal thing is pretty new here and very much a work in progress...

And French is not a requirement despite the add. Lots of Anglos here.

Cheers
Have any seasonal DEC been hired at AT?
Not to my knowledge but I'm a very small cog in this machine :)
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#20 Post by newcanjeter » Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:17 pm

I was applying for all winter only 737NG jobs posted here. At last count I was at 11 times between TA and SW. My last 737NG ride was October 2013. I have now given up.
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#21 Post by Captnflex » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:37 am

newcanjeter wrote:I was applying for all winter only 737NG jobs posted here. At last count I was at 11 times between TA and SW. My last 737NG ride was October 2013. I have now given up.
Do not give up yet.
Rumor has it Sunwing will not get (all) the over 100 Europeans pilots they need for the winter, might have something to do with the Federal election.
Time to push that CV again.
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#22 Post by Dh8Classic » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:34 pm

newcanjeter wrote:I was applying for all winter only 737NG jobs posted here. At last count I was at 11 times between TA and SW. My last 737NG ride was October 2013. I have now given up.
Just curious newcanjeter, are you bilingual?
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#23 Post by Charley » Wed Aug 26, 2015 2:57 pm

I have a current PPC on the 738 with over 10,000 hours tt and 4000 pic, most of which is on the Boeing. I applied for the Seasonal Captain position that was posted on the Transat website in July, all I got was an automatic email reply acknowledging receipt of my resume. I am Canadian, but not bilingual. Oh, and soon to be unemployed.
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#24 Post by Dh8Classic » Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:21 am

Interesting. A pilot who obviously is in the know about AT's hiring policies and has inside knowledge of many details asks,
Gilles Hudicourt wrote:I heard a rumour stating that when Air Transat put out an ad for Seasonal B737 Pilots, including Captains, that no B737 rated Captains applied. Can this be true ?
Here are some of the responses.
buzzjob wrote:A friend of mine applied for a seasonal Capt position and has not heard a thing. He is very experienced and current on the NG...
buzzjob wrote: Not bilingual...shouldn't matter, I know a few TS pilots who are not
Then we hear,
Charley wrote:I have a current PPC on the 738 with over 10,000 hours tt and 4000 pic, most of which is on the Boeing. I applied for the Seasonal Captain position that was posted on the Transat website in July, all I got was an automatic email reply acknowledging receipt of my resume. I am Canadian, but not bilingual. Oh, and soon to be unemployed.
I have brought up the subject of well over 50% of Canadian pilots possibly being excluded from this airline due to not being bilingual(and instead having much less qualified pilots hired) which is why I was so happy to see Sunwing's growth which is now open to everybody.

I was called a lot of names including bigoted for bringing up the subject so I said I would keep an open mind. I still do, but assuming the quoted posters above are telling the truth, an explanation would be much appreciated as to why Gilles was told that no qualified pilots applied..
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#25 Post by 767orbust » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:38 am

Same here. 10,000 plus hrs, 3,000 on NG, anglophone. No reply from AT in July other than receipt of resume.
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