Bearskin going head to head with Porter in North Bay market?

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Bearskin going head to head with Porter in North Bay market?

#1 Post by flyingvinnie » Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:02 pm

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Re: Bearskin going head to head with Porter in North Bay mar

#2 Post by sunk » Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:36 am

Now we need competition on the Winnipeg/Gillam/Thompson service. Would like to see Calm Air reduce their flights by 60%. Last minute ticket the other day was $1800.
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Re: Bearskin going head to head with Porter in North Bay mar

#3 Post by AllClutch » Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:22 pm

sunk wrote:Now we need competition on the Winnipeg/Gillam/Thompson service. Would like to see Calm Air reduce their flights by 60%. Last minute ticket the other day was $1800.

Calm Air and Bearskin are owned by the same company, so thats not going to happen.
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Re: Bearskin going head to head with Porter in North Bay mar

#4 Post by rxl » Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:47 pm

How does a company (Bearskin) reduce the price that they charge the customer for their service by 60% and remain in the black? Especially given the fact that the North Bay CA has a population of only 64,043 - a small, already well served market.
To add flights seems like overkill to me.
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Re: Bearskin going head to head with Porter in North Bay mar

#5 Post by Minimums » Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:15 am

rxl wrote:How does a company (Bearskin) reduce the price that they charge the customer for their service by 60% and remain in the black?
Easy. They operate an aircraft that has paid for itself 15 years or more ago, devalued to zero by finance, has a very, very low operating costs, with crews that are cost less than the competition. So everything they do is cheaper, therefore, they can do it for less. How many metro's can you buy for the cost of even a well used q400? Probably 23 or so.

My guess is even at a high reduced cost, they are still profitable, just before the rate reduction the heads of the show were skimming all the fat off the top before serving skim to the bottom. they've done the same as opec;drive down the prices so everyone else has to either operate at a loss or shut down. EIC's take over the world plan, mwahahaha...
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Re: Bearskin going head to head with Porter in North Bay mar

#6 Post by leftoftrack » Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:12 am

They operate an aircraft that has paid for itself 15 years or more ago, devalued to zero by finance, has a very, very low operating costs, with crews that are cost less than the competition. So everything they do is cheaper, therefore, they can do it for less. How many metro's can you buy for the cost of even a well used q400? Probably 23 or so.
depends on the price of scrap aluminum for that day, having said that your probbibly looking in the 50-75 aircraft range
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Re: Bearskin going head to head with Porter in North Bay mar

#7 Post by JayVee » Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:00 pm

Minimums wrote:
rxl wrote:How does a company (Bearskin) reduce the price that they charge the customer for their service by 60% and remain in the black?
Easy. They operate an aircraft that has paid for itself 15 years or more ago, devalued to zero by finance, has a very, very low operating costs, with crews that are cost less than the competition. So everything they do is cheaper, therefore, they can do it for less. How many metro's can you buy for the cost of even a well used q400? Probably 23 or so.

My guess is even at a high reduced cost, they are still profitable, just before the rate reduction the heads of the show were skimming all the fat off the top before serving skim to the bottom. they've done the same as opec;drive down the prices so everyone else has to either operate at a loss or shut down. EIC's take over the world plan, mwahahaha...
Crews are paid more than the competition.
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Re: Bearskin going head to head with Porter in North Bay mar

#8 Post by leftoftrack » Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:46 am

werre not talking about sky, Porters pay scale will be comprable
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