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Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#1 Post by loopa » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:49 pm

I heard there's a new pay scale at Sky Regional.

The summary of the rumour was that it's moved to a guaranteed 75 hour credit system at 40 some odd bucks / hr. That equates 36k/yr on a min guarantee level plus your per diems. Does this sound about right?
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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#2 Post by North Shore » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:28 pm

36 a year - sounds like the same old to me...
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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#3 Post by PROC_HDG » Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:27 pm

You are correct there were recently some changes and improvements.

They have gone to straight hourly, instead of base+credit, increased the min guarantee to 75 hrs, as well as a few work rule improvements.

The new 1st year pay is $47.20/hr for FOs. So that works out to just under $43k/year at min guarantee (or just over $48k/year at 85/hrs). Not sure where you're getting $36k per year?

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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#4 Post by fruitloops » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:13 am

Will they still have their quarterly bonus of 5% on top of the new hourly ?

What's the new captain hourly pay scale?
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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#5 Post by PROC_HDG » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:08 am

fruitloops wrote:Will they still have their quarterly bonus of 5% on top of the new hourly ?

What's the new captain hourly pay scale?
All the incentives that were in place before are still in place. Year 1 captain $78.33/hr. Also, overtime threshold lowered from 90 to 85 hrs.

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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#6 Post by rudder » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:55 am

PROC_HDG wrote:
All the incentives that were in place before are still in place. Year 1 captain $78.33/hr. Also, overtime threshold lowered from 90 to 85 hrs.

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Is there a credit system in place at Sky Regional?

What are the per diems?

What are the benefits?

What is the pension?

What is vacation entitlement?
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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#7 Post by Shady McSly » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:34 pm

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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#8 Post by av8ts » Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:00 pm

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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#9 Post by PROC_HDG » Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:51 pm

rudder wrote:
PROC_HDG wrote:
All the incentives that were in place before are still in place. Year 1 captain $78.33/hr. Also, overtime threshold lowered from 90 to 85 hrs.

PROC_HDG
Is there a credit system in place at Sky Regional?

What are the per diems?

What are the benefits?

What is the pension?

What is vacation entitlement?
There are multiple threads already covering this information.

For per diems, the only thing that has changed since the other threads is that it is now a $3/hr flat per diem, day and overnight.

The Profit Share, RRSP, OTP Incentive program and health benefits etc are all as described in previous threads.

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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#10 Post by loopa » Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:13 pm

PROC_HDG wrote:You are correct there were recently some changes and improvements.

They have gone to straight hourly, instead of base+credit, increased the min guarantee to 75 hrs, as well as a few work rule improvements.

The new 1st year pay is $47.20/hr for FOs. So that works out to just under $43k/year at min guarantee (or just over $48k/year at 85/hrs). Not sure where you're getting $36k per year?

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Thanks - I was multiplying 40 x 75 x 12 months. I stand corrected that it's 47.20/hr and not 40.

What is the progression of pay over the years?

Are the pilots' flying 75 hours a month? I heard 80 was a realistic average. Someone said the F/O's sit just over 50k/yr now and Captain's 80k/yr. I imagine attrition will stop being so high with the new PML and the fact that this is the highest paying AC Express gig for an entry level pilot forecasting their salary for the next 7 or so years. Because what would it be at Jazz and Georgian after 7 years? Keep in mind most people are stating that the upgrade times at Sky Regional are around 2 years so you'd be making captain pay in comparison to making 2nd or 3rd level F/O pay at Jazz. But then again, if attrition slows down, so will the upgrades I imagine.

Interesting wave of info either way, thanks PROC.
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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#11 Post by schnitzel2k3 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 8:28 am

It's nice to see a company adjusting to the market. Despite starting low to manage their startup costs, they've continually responded to their crews and tried to improve their lifestyle.

One it staves off the union rah rah rah, and two it starts to minimize the attrition, lowering training costs and minimizing overtime.

Once AC starts hiring in 2017, I think the revolving door will start spinning again for the tiers. I'm sure they are strategizing...

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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#12 Post by AirMail » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:46 am

But now they aren't providing a cheaper service to AC. Maybe GGN or EVAS should take over the EMB flying :twisted:
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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#13 Post by schnitzel2k3 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:26 pm

GGN is expensive to AC just based on the fact they can't seem to keep their pilots for longer than a year (some exceptions there). EVAS is the same thing.

The amount of time and energy billed to AC for training is probably the biggest cost associated with them. Plus the associated scheduling for line indoc (loss of efficiency).

GGN is a company built with 90s mentality; that being there is no movement in the industry and that they can operate how they please to undercut their competitors. Pilots are a dime a dozen, blah blah. That their employees owe them something and should be grateful.

This is very transparent if you've ever interacted with their management (again some exceptions).

Looking at Sky as an outsider, it looks quite different from the other tiers, IMO.

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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#14 Post by dhc# » Sat Dec 05, 2015 6:35 am

So what's the EMB like to fly, and how is it to transition from turboprop world ? How is the training at SKV?
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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#15 Post by bruced007 » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:46 pm

Can anyone confirm the new payscale for the embraer captain position, and does joining now mean you will flow through to mainline???
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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#16 Post by schnitzel2k3 » Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:50 pm

It must be up to par, because the guys I know going there off of the props say it's an easy transition.

The systems are a piece of cake to manage. A lot of automation.

The guys I've talked to at AC while commuting really enjoy the 190.

Profiles are faster than the props obviously, but not by much if you are coming off a KA or 1900.

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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#17 Post by dhc# » Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:41 pm

Tidbit on the PCC website from the updated info for SR reads,

*5 Embraer E175 E-Jets - April 2016
*Slowly removing Q400's from fleet

Are the Qs leaving ?
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#18 Post by PROC_HDG » Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:56 pm

dhc# wrote:Tidbit on the PCC website from the updated info for SR reads,

*5 Embraer E175 E-Jets - April 2016
*Slowly removing Q400's from fleet

Are the Qs leaving ?
Not sure where PCC is getting their information on that. There is no indication as yet that the Qs are leaving, in fact hiring for the Q has been going strong the last few months.

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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#19 Post by skypirate88 » Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:16 am

That line has now been removed from PCC so it would seem it was incorrect.
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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#20 Post by DHC-1 Jockey » Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:55 pm

PROC_HDG, check PM's.
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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#21 Post by fruitloops » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:46 pm

I heard a rumor that SKY might be starting operations in YVR in addition to current bases YYZ YZT YUL .....can anyone confirm or anyone else hear this or bs or ?? If so I'm guessing EMBs?
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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#22 Post by whiteguy » Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:46 am

fruitloops wrote:I heard a rumor that SKY might be starting operations in YVR in addition to current bases YYZ YZT YUL .....can anyone confirm or anyone else hear this or bs or ?? If so I'm guessing EMBs?
I'd be surprised. My understanding is the single engine ops for the 175 over the rocks is pretty restrictive. Would limit the type of flying they could do....
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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#23 Post by rxl » Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:15 pm

Didn't Air Canada operate those same 15 175's out of YVR when they had them?
Unless it's a REAL dog of a jet, I can't imagine it being any more restricted than a CRJ 100/200 ... Which is to say none.
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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#24 Post by jpilot77 » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:49 pm

SkyWest operates 170's all over the western US.
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Re: Sky Regional New Pay Scale

#25 Post by PROC_HDG » Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:17 am

jpilot77 wrote:SkyWest operates 170's all over the western US.
My understanding is that the 170 is a far better performer than the 175 per lb; correct me if I'm wrong, EMB guys?
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