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Re: Sky regional

#26 Post by FlyingClimber » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:59 am

Does someone know if they have started to call people for that direct entry Capt job that they posted a couple weeks ago?
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Re: Sky regional

#27 Post by flyingvinnie » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:52 pm

FlyingClimber wrote:Does someone know if they have started to call people for that direct entry Capt job that they posted a couple weeks ago?
Yup, they have.
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Re: Sky regional

#28 Post by nottellin » Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:13 pm

Nothing going like a nice smug reply like that to get the conversation started, care to share a little more information flyingvinnie?
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Re: Sky regional

#29 Post by bruced007 » Mon May 02, 2016 3:32 pm

Can anybody post or pm me the starting pay and pay thereafter for DEC Embraer

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Re: Sky regional

#30 Post by flyingvinnie » Mon May 02, 2016 4:26 pm

nottellin wrote:Nothing going like a nice smug reply like that to get the conversation started, care to share a little more information flyingvinnie?
Nothing smug about the reply, at all. He asked if anyone has received I call, and I answered his question.
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Re: Sky regional

#31 Post by fruitloops » Tue May 03, 2016 9:30 am

bruced007 wrote:Can anybody post or pm me the starting pay and pay thereafter for DEC Embraer

thanks
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Re: Sky regional

#32 Post by Koalemos » Tue May 03, 2016 12:03 pm

Nice chart, couple small corrections:

Sky
- pay rates increase about 2% a year, plus up to another 1.5 for CPI
- USA perdiems are adjusted for the average monthly conversion rate
- there is profit sharing, however, you don't get paid out until 2 years service and if you leave prior then you get nada

Encore
- the monthly min guarantee was upped to 80 hours, but AFAIK that increase is only renewed on a yearly basis so it could disappear without warning

Not huge but there it is.
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Re: Sky regional

#33 Post by fruitloops » Tue May 03, 2016 2:32 pm

thanks for the info and reminder, I mistakenly posted an old image as my spreadsheet actually had some of the info you provided already, so here's an updated comparison of regionals. Thanks to all that have given me info over the past few months.
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Re: Sky regional

#34 Post by avbird » Tue May 03, 2016 9:17 pm

Do you have any of those fancy charts for the FO side ?
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Re: Sky regional

#35 Post by Jimmy_Hoffa » Sat May 07, 2016 7:28 pm

Read the column that says FO
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Re: Sky regional

#36 Post by Jojo » Sun May 08, 2016 2:23 pm

Hi guys,

A question to you all in 705.
When there is a "Min 75h" mentionned, does it mean you're guaranted to work 75h or your pay cant be below 75h ?

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Re: Sky regional

#37 Post by PositiveRate27 » Sun May 08, 2016 2:34 pm

Jojo wrote:Hi guys,

A question to you all in 705.
When there is a "Min 75h" mentionned, does it mean you're guaranted to work 75h or your pay cant be below 75h ?

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Its the min they can pay you. Some companies on this list will fly you to the minimum, some will fly you into the 90's
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Re: Sky regional

#38 Post by AirMail » Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:49 pm

I like how Jazz bitched about SKY and GGN about lowering the bar, then they themselves go and lower it farther. GG ladies.
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#39 Post by Boreas » Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:58 pm

avbird wrote:Do you have any of those fancy charts for the FO side ?
Jimmy_Hoffa wrote:Read the column that says FO
AvCanada FTW! :supz:
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Re: Sky regional

#40 Post by proper » Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:54 pm

Airmail,
As I mentioned in a previous post regarding the extras at Jazz:

Benefits are about 400$/month on company dime and 350 on me. If I get hit by a bus on vacation in Mexico, not only am I evacuated (or God forbid my family) to Canada or up to 2 million$ each family member, but I will continue to collect 70% of my pay NET, and have the insurance company continue my pension contributions until my "would have been" retirement age. It is the utmost security you can have for you and your family. This is in addition to in the event of accidental death, six times your gross salary in life insurance (that's the basic plan/ if not accidental 3 times gross salary) not to mention the additional insurance you can get through ALPA. Oh wait I forgot, God forbid you do die, your wife or partner will have 20 000$ cash wired directly to cover funeral arrangements. You tell me one other company ANYWHERE that can offer that. Yes my portion is expensive (around 350$/month) but in addition to all that we get the whole free massages, treatments, vision, medical and dental. That is if I have one wife and no kids, or one wife and 12 kids.... still 350$/month.
Yeah I'm sure GGN, Sky and Encore have that. Air Canada doesn't even have that. So to each their own but there is much much much more to a Jazz career that pay and per diem... Because it was built and still is a career company for those who chose to stay or those who didn't make the AC cut.
The challenge now is to bring the new hires in line with the old pay and pension.

And again I know some at sky working 20 days a month. There are some skippers here, working 20 days a month pulling in over 200k, salary only. Just saying... Fly safe my friends. It's just a job, eventually it's just a job and it's life that flies right on by.
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Re: Sky regional

#41 Post by dunkafa » Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:56 am

Boreas wrote:The challenge now is to bring the new hires in line with the old pay and pension.
Yes please, ALPA should get on that (10$/hour less than skyreg)
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Re: Sky regional

#42 Post by proper » Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:46 pm

Yup, but Jazz has more guaranteed days off (12). So if you do the math.....the hourly wages at start are almost identical.
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Re: Sky regional

#43 Post by proper » Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:47 pm

As in if you worked an extra day or two at Jazz, essentially working the same amount of days as Sky or GGn..you end up making more money at Jazz. Next question?
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Re: Sky regional

#44 Post by Art Garfunkel » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:14 am

Yes, Jazz's starting hourly wage is lower but the total package is larger than Sky's in my opinion. Benefits, scheduling rules, and pension more than make up the difference. Compare a 5 yr Jazz pilot vs a 5 yr Sky pilot and see who is further ahead. Also you can't compare PML's as only Jazz has an official PML. The PML at Sky is a lie. Air Canada should of been more forthright with this to the Sky Regional pilots. (Seneca, Sault college, University degree need only apply)

Besides... we all work for one employer, in my opinion, and all this regional airline stuff is BS!!! Regional pilots are no different from mainline pilots. Just like the guy loading bags, agent boarding passengers, person selling tickets, they don't take a less hourly wage because the airplane says "express" on the side. All BS! Regional Airlines only benefit JR, RP, and JM!.

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Re: Sky regional

#45 Post by hithere » Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:12 pm

Only thing is, I'm not sure that a 5 year SKY pilot will ever exist. Is there such thing as a Sky lifer? The only carrot to work there is relatively quick left seat on a E175, other than that it's a sh$$ show
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Re: Sky regional

#46 Post by Inverted2 » Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:03 am

Is it true they are losing the Q400s at the end of the year? Not trying to start a rumour but it came from someone who works there!
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Re: Sky regional

#47 Post by rudder » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:37 am

SKY opened up with Q400's. Then they became the operator of AC's 175's. And now they are adding 175's (5 so far with more to come). It makes no sense to maintain the infrastructure for 5 Q400's unless that fleet is growing. With the extended CPA at CHR, there is no need for 2 Express Q400 operators.

Enjoy the jets. There will be more coming.
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Re: Sky regional

#48 Post by NickyNick » Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:17 am

Does Sky hire anyone with mostly King Air PIC time?
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Re: Sky regional

#49 Post by NotDirty! » Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:25 am

NickyNick wrote:Does Sky hire anyone with mostly King Air PIC time?
No, unless you're a girl.

They only hire males with significant open cockpit biplane time. Bonus points for triplane time.
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Re: Sky regional

#50 Post by BingBong » Sat Jun 18, 2016 6:05 am

rudder wrote:SKY opened up with Q400's. Then they became the operator of AC's 175's. And now they are adding 175's (5 so far with more to come). It makes no sense to maintain the infrastructure for 5 Q400's unless that fleet is growing. With the extended CPA at CHR, there is no need for 2 Express Q400 operators.

Enjoy the jets. There will be more coming.

Or RJ200 :..( So we better make GGN give them back and stop ruining AC OTP
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