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Jazz hiring in 2017

#1 Post by Pt6-42 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:16 am

Just wanted to know if anyone on the inside at jazz had any ideas what the hiring outlook was for 2017

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Re: Jazz hiring in 2017

#2 Post by flyer 1492 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:47 pm

The next equipment bid comes out on August 15. We will have a better idea at that time. My guess is yes the hiring will continue.

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Re: Jazz hiring in 2017

#3 Post by lazyeight » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:04 pm

Expect a big announcement around the same time.
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Re: Jazz hiring in 2017

#4 Post by PositiveRate27 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:57 pm

lazyeight wrote:Expect a big announcement around the same time.
... gooooo on
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Re: Jazz hiring in 2017

#5 Post by Pt6-42 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:24 pm

Thanks , hope this announcment is for the better ... Ie pay or sced.. But i wont hold my breath.... Its aviation :rolleyes:
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Re: Jazz hiring in 2017

#6 Post by timel » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:27 pm

I heard from friends at Jazz, next year is going to be an insane one for the hirings, I was told they still hire as we speak, it must be quite something to work in the training department.
This is good years for the pilots.
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Re: Jazz hiring in 2017

#7 Post by Pt6-42 » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:57 am

Do you think anyone with around 1000tt with 800 multi would have a chance?
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Re: Jazz hiring in 2017

#8 Post by AllClutch » Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:28 am

PositiveRate27 wrote:
lazyeight wrote:Expect a big announcement around the same time.
... gooooo on
Most certainly a base realignment with the possible reopening of the YVR RJ operation as there jets shift out of YYZ is the big rumour.
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Re: Jazz hiring in 2017

#9 Post by lazyeight » Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:47 am

Pt6-42 wrote:Thanks , hope this announcment is for the better ... Ie pay or sced.. But i wont hold my breath.... Its aviation :rolleyes:
We shall see... :rolleyes:
Pt6-42 wrote:Do you think anyone with around 1000tt with 800 multi would have a chance?
Probably not but with the way things have been going in the last year who knows what could happen. Get your ATPL exam done, 500MPIC and close to 1500 hours and you'll help your cause.
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Re: Jazz hiring in 2017

#10 Post by lazyeight » Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:50 am

AllClutch wrote: Most certainly a base realignment with the possible reopening of the YVR RJ operation as there jets shift out of YYZ is the big rumour.
I'm crossing my fingers for a CPA revision and CS100's. But I think that's a bit pie in the sky.

Could we see AC start to focus more on International routes over the next years and Jazz becoming the "domestic" Air Canada?
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Re: Jazz hiring in 2017

#11 Post by LTD » Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:51 am

lazyeight wrote: I'm crossing my fingers for a CPA revision and CS100's. But I think that's a bit pie in the sky.

Could we see AC start to focus more on International routes over the next years and Jazz becoming the "domestic" Air Canada?
Although this is probably what air canada management would like (it would save them tons of money), this is not what any Canadian pilot should want!

Whether you are a jazz pilot, AC pilot, or a 703/704 pilot working towards a AC/jazz/express 705 job in the futur; shifting flying/jobs at jazz, sky and/or georgian simply means less money for the Canadian pilot community.

For example, from a pilots' perspective: a Canadian airline industry with 3500 AC mainline jobs and say 1500 express jobs, is a much better situation than one with 3000 AC mainline jobs and 2000 express jobs. I.e. Same amount of flying and jobs out there, but much lower pool of money/salaries for pilots.

I was on a rapid air yyz/Yul flight couple weeks ago operated by sky on a E175... Captain making about 90k and FO making 45k (ball park). Just a few years ago, this same flight was operated with a captain making over 160k and a FO making 90k!!! Scaled onto a broader scale, Numbers like there are a huge loss for the Canadian pilot community.

I think it's in the best interest of every Canadian pilot to keep as much flying under AC mainline working conditions and salaries as it simply means more opportunity for higher paying jobs with better quality of life for all Canadian pilots.

With all due respect to all Canadian pilots, just my two cents..
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Re: Jazz hiring in 2017

#12 Post by Inverted2 » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:15 pm

The above is all very true. The same thing happened to Jazz within the past 2 years. The Jazz pilot roster has shrunk by about 150 pilots. From about 1500 to 1350-ish. All of those jobs have gone to other CPA carriers where the pay/pension/benefits are much lower.

Jazz is still a career airline (for now at least!). If AC management could, they'd shift all the flying to the lowest bidder.
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Re: Jazz hiring in 2017

#13 Post by peeelot » Mon Jul 18, 2016 8:34 am

Lazyeight I'm disappointed that you are wishing for the c series will go to express. Everyone got upset that sky was awarded the e 175 and GGN got the CRJ because they were brining down industry standard and pay. Please I ask you to sit back and think do I really want to bring down pay and lifestyle of pilots just so youcan fly a big shinny jet! Please let's all stop cutting each other throats to fly bigger planes and take less money doing it. We have all worked our bags off to get here nothing has been easy we as canadian pilots deserve a certain standard let's not give anymore up.
Fly safe everyone and remember we are paid to fly but most important we are paid to know when not to fly!

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Re: Jazz hiring in 2017

#14 Post by lazyeight » Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:02 pm

You at LTD make valid points and I have somewhat changed my view on it all after both of your posts.
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Re: Jazz hiring in 2017

#15 Post by Rowdy » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:36 pm

YVR RJ base returning? while it could happen.. it is unlikely, even though many YVR pilots wish and dream of it's return... It employs many Seasonal routes. YYC has them covered. They also don't overnight a ton of crews in YVR. The Q however.. we looked at numbers, anywhere from 4-6 crews a night in YVR which is the most expensive spot in the system. Not to mention the number of DH's to YVR from YYC for it, or the many who live in the YVR that commute to YYC being only a tiny piece of the puzzle. With solid load factors on the Q out of YLW, YYJ,PDX, SEA, and even YCD it would certainly make financial sense for a YVR Q base, especially with pressure from Encore.

Should see a lot of changes when this bid comes up in august.I for one hope it doest get massively delayed. Should see some significant opportunity. It'll be an interesting one thats for sure.
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Re: Jazz hiring in 2017

#16 Post by PositiveRate27 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:51 am

Rowdy wrote:YVR RJ base returning? while it could happen.. it is unlikely, even though many YVR pilots wish and dream of it's return... It employs many Seasonal routes. YYC has them covered. They also don't overnight a ton of crews in YVR. The Q however.. we looked at numbers, anywhere from 4-6 crews a night in YVR which is the most expensive spot in the system. Not to mention the number of DH's to YVR from YYC for it, or the many who live in the YVR that commute to YYC being only a tiny piece of the puzzle. With solid load factors on the Q out of YLW, YYJ,PDX, SEA, and even YCD it would certainly make financial sense for a YVR Q base, especially with pressure from Encore.

Should see a lot of changes when this bid comes up in august.I for one hope it doest get massively delayed. Should see some significant opportunity. It'll be an interesting one thats for sure.
I would love to see it, but the consensus seems to be the RJ going back into YVR. Hopefully youre right!
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Re: Jazz hiring in 2017

#17 Post by co-joe » Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:21 pm

lazyeight wrote:Expect a big announcement around the same time.
PML 2.0 perhaps?
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