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Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:01 am
by rookiepilot
justgiver wrote:
Individual business owners are not that important to the economy.


This is the problem with the Canada, people do not realize the value that business owners bring to the country. Not only that, but we never hear about the amount of businesses that fail. If we don't provide a fertile soil for entrepreneurs and employees a like what stops them from leaving this country? NOTHING

The people who make these laws have never run a business in their life and have no idea how much work it takes. Wanna talk about being poor and working long hours? Be a pilot or try and start a business in this country.

The taxation for the amount of service is insanity in this country.
No. The message small business owners are clearly given -- I wrote my own MP here with this, and he didn't even have the respect to personally respond ---- is that we are all crooked tax cheats, ripping off Canada and not paying our "fair share". That's bullshit.

At the same time, we should happily give bombardier executives taxpayer paid, multi million dollar bonuses, for running their company into the ground, while shipping jobs overseas. Because hey, it's Quebec.

This is Justin Trudeaus Canada.

I'm serious questioning why I should stay in this country. I feel more affinity with the USA, who supports small businesses, than working in an increasingly socialist country that is determined to punish the productive job creators.

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:46 am
by '97 Tercel
While I do want BBD to succeed I also have to agree that Quebec is a ridiculous charity case.

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:06 am
by photofly
rookiepilot wrote:
I'm serious questioning why I should stay in this country. I feel more affinity with the USA, who supports small businesses, than working in an increasingly socialist country that is determined to punish the productive job creators.
I'm fairly sure that by the time you've paid for health insurance for yourself and all your employees there's not much in it.

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:40 am
by schnitzel2k3
Mercer summed it up best when he said that around the 2 year mark, every Canadian government gets cocky and thinks, 'Hey I can do what I want, they voted for me!', when really all we did was vote out the last guy.

Canada though is in far better shape than the 'abandoning ship' going on down south.

S.

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:48 am
by Cat Driver
I was fortunate to have made a good living as a pilot and can afford to go to the USA if I need an elective surgery so for me Canada is a good place to live.

Where we were born generally determines where we live because that is generally where our assets are.

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 3:32 pm
by 7ECA
rookiepilot wrote: The message small business owners are clearly given - is that we are all crooked tax cheats, ripping off Canada and not paying our "fair share". That's bullshit.

[snip]

I'm serious questioning why I should stay in this country. I feel more affinity with the USA, who supports small businesses, than working in an increasingly socialist country that is determined to punish the productive job creators.
Maybe you should stop reading the National Post/Globe and Mail/Fraser Institute drivel then? :roll:

http://pressprogress.ca/new_fraser_inst ... _on_taxes/

http://pressprogress.ca/will_2017_be_th ... y_gimmick/

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:17 am
by sstaurus
Cat Driver wrote:Where we were born generally determines where we live because that is generally where our assets are.
Indeed Canada also gave everyone here the opportunity to succeed... one might decide to abandon ship now but don't forget how lucky you still are for where you were born. (not speaking directly at Cat just in general)

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:49 am
by av8ts
FOD wrote:No question about it. If you can, leave, run as fast as you can. It's only a question of risk/reward. Step out of the comfort zone and go make some real money. Cut your ties to Canada completely and park your money in a more tax friendly jurisdiction. You'll come to appreciate that all is not well in what Canada has become, and most importantly, the direction it's going. Be smart, frugal, save every penny tax efficiently and then you can chose anywhere in the WORLD to live, not just the People's Republic of Canuckistan.

I left. it was a hard decision to make, but so far, best decision ever. There are many families here and they all are adapting well. Like any good commander, make a well thought out and informed decision.

Or stay behind and continue to contribute to this broken none-sense while you are nickel and dimed to death for diminishing returns and stay perpetually in-debted to the banks.

Being successful in Canada is just not worth it.

FOD.
Sorry but your wrong. I’ve traveled the world and Canada is an amazing country. I feel very lucky to enjoy the great life that I have here

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:55 am
by Cat Driver
FOD has it figured out.

If I were younger I would be gone in a heart beat.

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:51 am
by rookiepilot
There is much to be thankful for, the freedoms and privilege of being born and living in Canada. I've been to 40 + countries, have friends in many of those, and most would agree it's difficult to top Canada in many respects.

We do seem to be going in the wrong direction and that is discouraging. Our freedoms are diminishing as political correctness rules, and the only voices allowed are the "correct" voices.

Our best friends are the Americans, we have to thank them for a lot, our safety and security and largest trading partner, yet Canadians have been conditioned to hate them. This isn't good, we need them as our friends.

Canadians have also been conditioned to see anyone succeeding in business as either a crook or exploitive, you read that often on forums here. And this mentality is actively encouraged by our government. Therefore kids in school are taught that working for the government is a higher calling than creating a business.

That is all sad in my view, and not what leads to a strong independent nation.

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:10 am
by BE20 Driver
This weekend in particular, I'm grateful for having been born in Canada. But for a quick twist of history, I could have easily been born in Cuba. Questioning leaving for somewhere better just wouldn't be the same there.

I too have been in about 40 countries and have found that there's always something in every country that we could be doing better back home. There's always something that you truly miss about Canada. Perhaps you only appreciate what you have by noticing what you don't have where you are.

To all the people that strongly believe this is the best place on earth, and all of the people who are substituting BBQ'd duck or beeef bulgogi - Happy Thanksgiving.

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:12 am
by rxl
FOD wrote:No question about it. If you can, leave, run as fast as you can. It's only a question of risk/reward. Step out of the comfort zone and go make some real money. Cut your ties to Canada completely and park your money in a more tax friendly jurisdiction. You'll come to appreciate that all is not well in what Canada has become, and most importantly, the direction it's going. Be smart, frugal, save every penny tax efficiently and then you can chose anywhere in the WORLD to live, not just the People's Republic of Canuckistan.

I left. it was a hard decision to make, but so far, best decision ever. There are many families here and they all are adapting well. Like any good commander, make a well thought out and informed decision.

Or stay behind and continue to contribute to this broken none-sense while you are nickel and dimed to death for diminishing returns and stay perpetually in-debted to the banks.

Being successful in Canada is just not worth it.

FOD.
Good for you. Glad you found your nirvana.
It's really all about you isn't it.
The majority of Canadians are able to be successful here and find it very much worthwhile to contribute to something bigger than they are, and to contribute to an idea whose main goal is to make the lives of others just a little bit better.
Keep your childish insults to yourself.

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:45 am
by rookiepilot
rxl wrote:
FOD wrote:No question about it. If you can, leave, run as fast as you can. It's only a question of risk/reward. Step out of the comfort zone and go make some real money. Cut your ties to Canada completely and park your money in a more tax friendly jurisdiction. You'll come to appreciate that all is not well in what Canada has become, and most importantly, the direction it's going. Be smart, frugal, save every penny tax efficiently and then you can chose anywhere in the WORLD to live, not just the People's Republic of Canuckistan.

I left. it was a hard decision to make, but so far, best decision ever. There are many families here and they all are adapting well. Like any good commander, make a well thought out and informed decision.

Or stay behind and continue to contribute to this broken none-sense while you are nickel and dimed to death for diminishing returns and stay perpetually in-debted to the banks.

Being successful in Canada is just not worth it.

FOD.
Good for you. Glad you found your nirvana.
It's really all about you isn't it.
The majority of Canadians are able to be successful here and find it very much worthwhile to contribute to something bigger than they are, and to contribute to an idea whose main goal is to make the lives of others just a little bit better.
Keep your childish insults to yourself.
Why exactly is putting his family's financial security ahead of working for the government of Canada, a bad thing?

I applaud his honesty and his courage to make the choice he feels is in the best interest of his family.

Personally I contribute a ton of dough to making the lives of others better. Why does that need to be through being taxed by a government that wastes the money on things I don't believe in?

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:38 am
by Cat Driver
Keep your childish insults to yourself.
A lot of us agree with him, are we also childish?

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:19 pm
by complexintentions
rxl wrote:
FOD wrote:No question about it. If you can, leave, run as fast as you can. It's only a question of risk/reward. Step out of the comfort zone and go make some real money. Cut your ties to Canada completely and park your money in a more tax friendly jurisdiction. You'll come to appreciate that all is not well in what Canada has become, and most importantly, the direction it's going. Be smart, frugal, save every penny tax efficiently and then you can chose anywhere in the WORLD to live, not just the People's Republic of Canuckistan.

I left. it was a hard decision to make, but so far, best decision ever. There are many families here and they all are adapting well. Like any good commander, make a well thought out and informed decision.

Or stay behind and continue to contribute to this broken none-sense while you are nickel and dimed to death for diminishing returns and stay perpetually in-debted to the banks.

Being successful in Canada is just not worth it.

FOD.
Good for you. Glad you found your nirvana.
It's really all about you isn't it.
The majority of Canadians are able to be successful here and find it very much worthwhile to contribute to something bigger than they are, and to contribute to an idea whose main goal is to make the lives of others just a little bit better.
Keep your childish insults to yourself.
Please explain where the insults are, exactly? Your defensiveness strikes me as the childish bit.

If you think Canadians in Canada don't act completely in their own self-interest just as much as anyone, anywhere, you are sorely mistaken. The lofty ideals you attribute to Canada are a luxury afforded by living in a wealthy country. As that erodes, watch for the true character of people to come out. It's already happening.

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:45 pm
by Cat Driver
How many here remember when our taxes paid for government services?

Remember when all the services that T.C. provided for us were done in a very short time and there were no " Service Charges. " which is double taxation.

One of the most egregious taxes T.C. imposes is the $55.00 medical fee.

For what?

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:07 pm
by CL-Skadoo!
Cat Driver wrote:How many here remember when our taxes paid for government services?

Remember when all the services that T.C. provided for us were done in a very short time and there were no " Service Charges. " which is double taxation.

One of the most egregious taxes T.C. imposes is the $55.00 medical fee.

For what?
It's been a very long time.

You said if you were at an earlier stage of your career, you'd pull the pin and head elsewhere.
Because you've been so many places, I'd like to know where would you go or personally recommend?

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:08 pm
by Cat Driver
My first three choices would be.

One of the cay's off Belize.

Panama.

Ecuador.

In that order.

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:08 pm
by Cat Driver
My first three choices would be.

One of the cay's off Belize.

Panama.

Ecuador.

In that order.

Re: Should I stay or should I go?

Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:23 pm
by BE20 Driver
CRA is now taxing employee discounts. Chances are since WS at least charges $2.50/flight that we'll have a new tax to pay. Commuters will love this I'm sure.

I've been to all of those places and I agree. The only thing I'd change is maybe Ecuador over Panama but that depends on what part of each country.

As a side note, maybe the way around viewing staff travel on your own airline is to only fly the competitor. Since I'm not an employee of theirs, it's not an employee discount.