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Sunwing Q400's?

#1 Post by richardhead » Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:28 pm

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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#2 Post by HansDietrich » Sun Oct 15, 2017 4:30 pm

Sunwing!!!!
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#3 Post by tincanflyer » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:05 pm

Huh. More info??
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#4 Post by ant_321 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 10:44 pm

Sounds unlikely. I work at Sunwing. Always plenty of rumours going around but I've never heard that one.
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#5 Post by PostmasterGeneral » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:24 am

Who owns those all white ones sitting by the skyservice hangar in CYYZ?
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#6 Post by fish4life » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:29 am

PostmasterGeneral wrote:Who owns those all white ones sitting by the skyservice hangar in CYYZ?
Jazz
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#7 Post by iflyroads » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:41 am

Very unlikely.
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#8 Post by JBI » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:56 am

PostmasterGeneral wrote:Who owns those all white ones sitting by the skyservice hangar in CYYZ?
While I have no idea what, if anything is happening with Sunwing, Bombardier and/or their customers have used the Skyservice apron and/or maintenance for Q400 deliveries and returns for over a decade. There have been Q400s from SAS, Qantas, Russia and the Caribbean parked there at various times. For quite some time Republic's returned Q400s have been sitting on there as well.
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#9 Post by PostmasterGeneral » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:59 am

fish4life wrote:
PostmasterGeneral wrote:Who owns those all white ones sitting by the skyservice hangar in CYYZ?
Jazz
Doubt there’s any truth to that... If they were owned by Jazz they’d be online by now. We can’t afford to run with any fewer Q’s than we are already.
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#10 Post by iflyroads » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:48 pm

Might be getting repainted? In new AC colours ?
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#11 Post by aerosexual » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:53 pm

The only thing Sunwing is getting from Bombardier is the VP Flight Ops ... via Porter :lol:
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#12 Post by rudder » Mon Oct 16, 2017 7:17 pm

aerosexual wrote:The only thing Sunwing is getting from Bombardier is the VP Flight Ops ... via Porter :lol:
I think that was probably the gist of the original slightly cryptic post.

Is RH retiring?
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#13 Post by jd832 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:10 pm

PostmasterGeneral wrote:Who owns those all white ones sitting by the skyservice hangar in CYYZ?
Those white United Express Q400 belonged to Republic Airlines. They phases the Q400 program down. They are going to Flybe in Europe and some will be leased to other companies.

http://www.canadianbusiness.com/busines ... urboprops/
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#14 Post by 47north » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:42 am

jd832 wrote:
PostmasterGeneral wrote:Who owns those all white ones sitting by the skyservice hangar in CYYZ?
Those white United Express Q400 belonged to Republic Airlines. They phases the Q400 program down. They are going to Flybe in Europe and some will be leased to other companies.

http://www.canadianbusiness.com/busines ... urboprops/
Flybe did take some of those aircraft, but apparently they weren't in great shape and they declined to take all the aircraft they initially planned on.
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#15 Post by gonnabeapilot » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:42 am

rudder wrote:
aerosexual wrote:The only thing Sunwing is getting from Bombardier is the VP Flight Ops ... via Porter :lol:
I think that was probably the gist of the original slightly cryptic post.

Is RH retiring?
Not yet but he wants to fly the line for a few more years before he does. Sunwing's been looking for a new VP since the summer.
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#16 Post by dashx » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:01 pm

Some are Ex Republic aircraft. They still have the N registration on them (which you can trace back to Republic). As well ex Flybe machines. There is at least one customer that I know of taking the Q's from Skyservice. The link for Flybe is 3 years old and completely out of date. Flybe has Q400's but don't be surprised to see them leaving their fleet (nudge nudge wink wink say no more).
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#17 Post by BeechjetYKZ » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:49 pm

Sunwing has zero reason to get Q400s. Their business model is built on moving people to/from vacation destinations in the Caribbean. They have and continue to do great flying into pretty much any Canadian airport with demand by flying via larger cities (ie. Bagotville to Cancun with a stop to pick-up/drop pax in YQB).
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#18 Post by confusedalot » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:11 pm

Same here,
Unless of course, the master plan is to provide holiday services between Red Lake and Moosoonee. :lol:
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#19 Post by iflyroads » Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:44 pm

The topic and original post was a cryptic hint at Porters former VP of flight ops (who also used to work for bbd on the q400) going to Sunwing.

I don't think they meant Sunwing was starting a q400 run.
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#20 Post by PT6onH20 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:20 am

iflyroads wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:44 pm
The topic and original post was a cryptic hint at Porters former VP of flight ops (who also used to work for bbd on the q400) going to Sunwing.

I don't think they meant Sunwing was starting a q400 run.
Can anyone confirm the rumour that said VP was not approved by TC for the role of DFO, as per lack of experience and is now flying as an FO to meet some numbers?
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#21 Post by rudder » Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:23 am

https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/ ... 5-2173.htm

(b) Chief Pilot

(i) Qualifications

The Chief Pilot shall have the following qualifications:
(amended 2003/06/01)

(A) hold a valid Airline Transport Pilot Licence (aeroplanes), a valid Instrument Rating appropriate for the group of aeroplane and a type rating for at least one of the types of aeroplanes operated;

(B) have at least 3 years aeroplane experience (commercial operations experience not required) as pilot-in-command:
(amended 1998/03/23)

(I) of an aeroplane referred to in paragraph 705.01(a) of the Canadian Aviation Regulations; and
(amended 1998/03/23)

(II) in the weight group (more or less than 100,000 lbs) and type of operations (domestic / international, cargo / passenger);
(amended 1998/03/23)

(C) be qualified for line flying on one of the types of aeroplanes operated;

(D) demonstrate knowledge to the Minister with respect to the content of the Company Operations Manual, Training Manuals, Standard Operating Procedures, Approved Check Pilot Manual (if applicable), and the provisions of the Regulations and Standards necessary to carry out the duties and responsibilities of the position; and

(E) the chief pilot's personal record in relation to aviation shall not include:
(amended 2003/06/01; no previous version)

(I) any conviction under subsection 7.3(1) of the Aeronautics Act; or

(II) two or more convictions, occurring during separate unrelated events, under the Canadian Aviation Regulations.
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#22 Post by PT6onH20 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:58 pm

Thanks for the CARs link, but he wasn't hired as CP :roll:

I think its more this job:

(2) Qualifications and Responsibilities of Managerial Personnel
(a) Operations Manager

(i) Qualifications

(A) holds or has held the appropriate licence and ratings for which a pilot-in-command is required to hold for one of the aeroplanes operated; or

(B) has acquired not less than 3 years related supervisory experience with an operator of a commercial air service whose flight operations are similar in size and scope; and

(C) demonstrates knowledge to the Minister with respect to the content of the operations manual, the air operator's certificate and operations specifications, the provision of the regulations and standards necessary to carry out the duties and responsibilities to ensure safety.


and who knows how anyone may interpret the language in "similar size and scope"
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#23 Post by rudder » Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:25 pm

My mistake. Many 705 operators treat the DFO as the ‘Chief Pilot’ not in title but rather to validate the requirement of the AOC. I guess SW does it differently - perhaps the VP Flt Ops.
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#24 Post by ant_321 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:49 pm

rudder wrote:
Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:25 pm
My mistake. Many 705 operators treat the DFO as the ‘Chief Pilot’ not in title but rather to validate the requirement of the AOC. I guess SW does it differently - perhaps the VP Flt Ops.
Our Cheif Pilot is our DFO. Mr Gandhi is the VP of flt ops.
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Re: Sunwing Q400's?

#25 Post by flyinhigh » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:51 am

For the record, 2 of those Q's in YYZ are joining the westjet fleet this year. They are getting painted as we speak.
By year end the total will be at 47.
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