WeedPro2000 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:25 pmWell, if you think it's the same company, you could always ask the CIRB what it thinks. I think you'll be disappointed by the answer. And just so you and other don't engage in revisionist history, the company's plan, when it announced its plans for a ULCC included employing pilots from the WPDL (the One List). Later that day, ALPA announced its plans for a certification vote. In spite of the fact that the ULCC had been announced, a less than overwhelming 61 percent of WJ pilots voted in favour of certifying with ALPA. In doing so, they stated very clearly they no longer wanted a collaborative relationship with the company. They wanted a black and white relationship. They wanted a legal relationship. They got one.Marinth wrote: ↑Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:35 pm Swoop is not a startup. That’s the point. It’s a company with 100 same type aircraft, with over 1000 type rated pilots, probably another few thousand papplications on file, that refuses to operate with its own pilot group. Hiring foreign pilots to start a new company is one thing. Hiring foreign pilots for a re-brand is entirely different.
The only people to blame for the lack of WJ pilots in the Swoop saddles are the 61 percent of WJ pilots who voted in ALPA.
Right, it’s ALPA’s fault.... where is swoop getting FA’s from? They aren’t unionized and have the same legal protections in their work agreement as the pilots do. I don’t see the WCCA (cabin crew member association) working collaboratively with the company to retain FA jobs at Swoop. So it has nothing to do with a legal relationship.
The bottom line is WestJet wants cheap labor and now they are willing to get foreign workers to do it.