Dash.Trash wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:59 pm “Edmonton Centre, Air Canada’ssss 202...”

Muuuhahahaha...doubling this now!

I love threads like this. Gives me ideas on how best to trigger uptight Canadians. Just wish you didn't make it so easy, there's no fun in that!

complexintentions wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 9:35 am I love threads like this. Gives me ideas on how best to trigger uptight Canadians. Just wish you didn't make it so easy, there's no fun in that!

A quick perusal of PPRUNE debunks that pretty quickly. Maybe you’ll have more satisfaction in your own sandbox.

Majority of you sound like a bunch of whining douchebags. The rest can carry on.

mixturerich wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2019 7:40 am When the other guy tries to keep up his “cool” radio voice and doesn’t annunciate clearly or properly, and ATC says “say again” numerous times throughout the pairing. WTF MAN SPEAK NORMALLY FOR CHRIST’S SAKE YOU SOUND LIKE A TOOL. That one really irks me (take notes kids and don’t be that guy). Nobody actually cares how you sound on the radio and nobody even knows who you are.

"departuretwentyfivetwoclearedtakeofftwofourleftwestjettwoninety"

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Posters who lecture on everyone else's stupid mistakes but on threads like "scariest moment as a pilot" with everyone sharing a story.....are then strangely quiet. Yup........

rookiepilot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:58 pm Posters who lecture on everyone else's stupid mistakes but on threads like "scariest moment as a pilot" with everyone sharing a story.....are then strangely quiet. Yup........

Ha! True

infiniteregulus wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2019 12:32 pm Transmitting "I" instead of "We" or "[Neutral]" in a two crew airplane

I have it the other way around... "Tower, C-GABC, we are ..." We all know that you are flying alone on your PPL solo cross country.

It all boils down to professionalism for me.

1. We want to be paid and seen as professionals, but I often think about how my lawyer friends can quote multiple examples of articles and case law yet how some of my pilot friends can't tell me if something is from the FOM or AOM and who've not read the AIM since their CPL. Many American pilots I bump into do not have this problem, so maybe there is something to be said for a written, oral, and practical exam. Maybe if we up our game and stop acting like children, we will again be seen as professionals and, eventually, paid like it too.

2. I expect a PPL student to sound a certain way on the radio, but I expect that pilot to have improved by the time they reach a commercial operator. I should not have to teach the holder of an instrument rating on what to say when asking ATC for something. Now, I'm as guilty as the next pilot of having strong excrement come out of my mouth during transmission, and I kick myself for it every time. But honestly, some people have turned poor radio work into an art form. It would be a modern art masterpiece if it were not so damned frustrating to listen to.

3. SOPs. Just say what's in the book for god sake. It's "transition, set __.__," not "tranny," or "trinni" or whatever god awful thing you're trying to say. It was funny the first time, 50 years ago long before I started flying. Now, it sounds like you're the village idiot. You want to say something different, go buy your own airplane. Just, please do a little better than mediocre, that'd be great.

4. Sunglasses in the terminal. Jesus, this is such an irrational pet peeve for me and I should really see someone about it. Let me set the scene: It's 2300 and there you are walking through the terminal with your sunglasses on. I can hear the Bee Gees playing in your head as you strut down the corridor. You think everyone is moving out of your way like the parting of the seas. You are your own god. But nope, you're back to being the village idiot ignoring the company rules. Honestly, if you're in the Calgary Terminal around 1800 today and you're wearing sunglasses, that's going to be me piledriving you into the ground.

5. Shuttle report times. You'll complain all flight about that one passenger who showed up one minute before we wanted to close the door, but you'll happily show up at or a minute after the shuttle departure time. Stop it. Stop. Stop. Just Stop. The time given is the time the shuttle leaves. Just. Do. Better. I'd say find your own way to the airport next time if I didn't think it would cause a delayed departure.

I could and would go on as I'm finding this rather therapeutic, but that plane isn't going to drive itself to the runway.

DirtyDashDriver wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:50 pm It all boils down to professionalism for me.

1. We want to be paid and seen as professionals

Except regional FO’s aren’t paid as professionals so what can you expect? When one paycheque goes entirely to rent it’s pretty demotivating.

As for sunglasses in the terminal that is just pathetic and super douchey and cringeworthy.

mixturerich wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:31 pm

DirtyDashDriver wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:50 pm It all boils down to professionalism for me.

1. We want to be paid and seen as professionals

Except regional FO’s aren’t paid as professionals so what can you expect? When one paycheque goes entirely to rent it’s pretty demotivating.

As for sunglasses in the terminal that is just pathetic and super douchey and cringeworthy.

Actually some people wear prescription sunglasses. It's not always easy to switch back to regular glasses. Sometimes you leave the plane with sunglasses, and only realise in the terminal you are still wearing them. Your regular glasses are back in the plane. Do you quickly go to the washroom with your sunglasses, or run back to the plane through the crowded jet bridge to get them?

digits_ wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:47 pm

mixturerich wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:31 pm

DirtyDashDriver wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:50 pm It all boils down to professionalism for me.

1. We want to be paid and seen as professionals

Except regional FO’s aren’t paid as professionals so what can you expect? When one paycheque goes entirely to rent it’s pretty demotivating.

As for sunglasses in the terminal that is just pathetic and super douchey and cringeworthy.

Actually some people wear prescription sunglasses. It's not always easy to switch back to regular glasses. Sometimes you leave the plane with sunglasses, and only realise in the terminal you are still wearing them. Your regular glasses are back in the plane. Do you quickly go to the washroom with your sunglasses, or run back to the plane through the crowded jet bridge to get them?

I’m calling bs on this. I wear glasses and prescription sunglasses. I’m always aware of which ones I’m wearing

I would Never walk through terminal with sunglasses, prescription or not, on. Never.

Except regional FO’s aren’t paid as professionals so what can you expect? When one paycheque goes entirely to rent it’s pretty demotivating.

Professionalism begets professionalism. So too does the inverse. Yes, it is demotivating earning so little, but what do you expect a company to do when they hear their pilots "meowing" on a frequency or showing up to work with a uniform that clearly spent the night on the floor? That's not how professionals act. If I am an owner of a company, why would I spend more of my money on someone who continually embarrasses my brand?

Now, if that person turns around, acts like a professional, flies the aircraft with a mind for keeping costs down while also being safe, then maybe I pay that person or persons a little more for their effort. But in the airline world, there is always going to be that one idiot who ruins it for everyone. Therefore, it's better to run that type of person out of town before they do damage to the profession.

Actually some people wear prescription sunglasses. It's not always easy to switch back to regular glasses. Sometimes you leave the plane with sunglasses, and only realise in the terminal you are still wearing them. Your regular glasses are back in the plane. Do you quickly go to the washroom with your sunglasses, or run back to the plane through the crowded jet bridge to get them?

Yep. I'm one of those "some people" too.

It is very easy to switch back to regular glasses. You keep one case or both cases on top of everything in your flight bag. Then, once the airplane is parked and you think you need to run into the terminal, you swap out your glasses. Hell, tie it to taking off your headset.

I don't know about you, but the need to take a leak doesn't just come on. There is normally a little warning. Enough warning that you can think to yourself "hey, I need to swap out my glasses when I go into the terminal."

It truly is the little things that differentiate pro-ams from professionals.

rooster aren't you a bit of a C@ck of the walk

DirtyDashDriver wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:38 pm
Professionalism begets professionalism. So too does the inverse. Yes, it is demotivating earning so little, but what do you expect a company to do when they hear their pilots "meowing" on a frequency or showing up to work with a uniform that clearly spent the night on the floor? That's not how professionals act. If I am an owner of a company, why would I spend more of my money on someone who continually embarrasses my brand?

Awwwww, Dash, no one wants to read your comments. Not going to win any popularity contests.

They all want to read the message from those Unifor type ads the Liberals are running.

All small business are scumbags. Professionalism? F----that, Just Pay me! I deserve it!

hangers are for clothes; hangars are for planes

perdiums no, no, no: per diem

complexintentions wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 9:35 am I love threads like this. Gives me ideas on how best to trigger uptight Canadians. Just wish you didn't make it so easy, there's no fun in that!

Easiest way is to call us American.