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Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:41 pm
by ayseven
Better just go straight to Esperanto then. Other languages also have words that look exactly the same and meaning is decided by context. Personally, I like English; I've been speaking it since about age 1.

Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:46 pm
by hithere
Let say one is talking about a dog’s bone. The ‘s indicates possession/ownership. If one replaces the word dog with “ it” , and one says “ it’s bone” , that is contrary to the rule that “it’s” is a contraction of the word “it” and “is”
Also I purposely used “one” instead of “you” in the explanation above to avoid the confusion that exists in English when referring to people in general. In other languages the pronoun equivalent of “one” is always used to generalize thus eliminating the confusion that exists in English(ie think about the number of times someone has used the word “you” in a sentence and you can’t figure out if they about referring to you in particular or anyone in general)

Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:28 pm
by genetic jack hammer
So, Pivot Airlines, eh?

Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:05 am
by lownslow
So if Pivot Airlines does an outstanding job how many of you would let go of their Georgian past? Or would you hold it against them forever?

Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:42 am
by flyinhigh
I think Pivot airlines has done a fantastic job of pivoting this topic to something different.

Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:46 am
by RedAndWhiteBaron
hithere wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:46 pm Let say one is talking about a dog’s bone. The ‘s indicates possession/ownership. If one replaces the word dog with “ it” , and one says “ it’s bone” , that is contrary to the rule that “it’s” is a contraction of the word “it” and “is”
Wrong. "It's" is incorrect here.

"Its" is a possessive pronoun, along with yours, his, hers, theirs, etc... None of which use an apostrophe. The confusion arises from apostrophes used after a noun, such as "RedAndWhiteBaron's grammar is beyond reproach" - because "it" is a noun but "its" is a pronoun. "The dog's bone" is also correct, as "dog" is a noun. However, "It's bone" is not correct in this context. It would be correct, though, if used to mean "It is [made of] bone".

In general apostrophes are only used with nouns to indicate the possessive, not pronouns, and the only correct use of "it's" is as a contraction for "it is", "it has", or "it was", and even "it was" is rather an edge case.

I do love English though. Sooooo much fun to argue over it. Sorry, my father learned English as a second language and fell in love with it. I had endless suppertime debates about the language with him in his effort to better speak and read/write it. So unfortunately, I now love arguing over English, mostly because I'm alway's right.
flyinhigh wrote: Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:42 am I think Pivot airlines has done a fantastic job of pivoting this topic to something different.
Yeah sorry about that. I can't resist.

Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:51 am
by genetic jack hammer
So, will pivot be run by the same management team that did such a fabulous job on the Air Canada RJ operation?

Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:54 am
by RedAndWhiteBaron
It's a very old trick - I've seen it used countless times in the tech startup business. Run your business at a loss, relying on bank or government loans, or naive angel investors, until one of those loans gets called in and the investors all walk. Then, declare bankruptcy, start up a new company, and buy up the assets for pennies on the dollar. Profit!

Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 9:33 am
by digits_
hithere wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:46 pm Let say one is talking about a dog’s bone. The ‘s indicates possession/ownership. If one replaces the word dog with “ it” , and one says “ it’s bone” , that is contrary to the rule that “it’s” is a contraction of the word “it” and “is”
Also I purposely used “one” instead of “you” in the explanation above to avoid the confusion that exists in English when referring to people in general. In other languages the pronoun equivalent of “one” is always used to generalize thus eliminating the confusion that exists in English(ie think about the number of times someone has used the word “you” in a sentence and you can’t figure out if they about referring to you in particular or anyone in general)
https://data.grammarbook.com/blog/apost ... or-of-all/

It's actually quite well defined.

Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:12 pm
by DHC-1 Jockey
An airline that failed under the best possible conditions is trying to start over in one of the worst airline downturns in decades. I wish them luck.
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Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:28 pm
by Inverted2
Same management, so same shit different name. :mrgreen:

Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:38 am
by genetic jack hammer
Good for them, can't wish them well, considering how the pilots and f/a's were treated, while operating under the GGN name.

Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:19 pm
by RedAndWhiteBaron
Same shit, different asshole.

(or so I hear)

Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 8:03 am
by 2112
What colour will they paint the office this time to keep people from leaving when this endeavour eventually collapses?

Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:21 am
by genetic jack hammer
Brown would be nice, to go along with the theme.

Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:23 pm
by goingnowherefast
Are we going to be bombarded by hiring ads soon?

Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:58 pm
by digits_
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Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:43 pm
by JohnnyHotRocks
goingnowherefast wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:23 pm Are we going to be bombarded by hiring ads soon?
I am sure they already have a stack of qualified resumes

Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:16 pm
by genetic jack hammer
The sad thing is, with so many pilots on lay off, some might jump at this opportunity.

Re: Good Riddance GGN

Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:47 pm
by flyinhigh
Not a mention anywhere on the new website of GGN. Apparently the CEO has 27 years experience, but in what we will never know.

Also, looks like they are a premier charter operation utilizing the ......

https://flypivot.com/our-team