ACE and ACE

loopy · Post by **loopy** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 8:08 am

With Air Canada changing the parent company name to Air Canada Enterprises they will now be known by the acronym ACE. AllCanada Express is allready known as ACE, and they actually fly some cargo under contract for AC.

Confusing.

Or is ACE's (the freight co.) current growth just really aggressive?

Maybe they are taking over AC?

Hmmm.

loopy · Post by **loopy** » Tue Aug 17, 2004 10:28 am

Air Canada Cargo inks deal with AllCanada Express to operate at least 2 DC-10's beginning this fall to fly cargo to Europe on contract.

http://www.yyznews.com/Aug.html

loopy · Post by **loopy** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:39 am

Rumour going around it may be MD11's instead of DC10's. The super 10's.

Anyone else heard this?

aero-singidunum · Post by **aero-singidunum** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 4:39 pm

Yes, i did hear that, but for another cargo company, not ACE.

Rebel · Post by **Rebel** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:14 am

Just when everyone thought that you couldn’t muddy the waters further this is another current rumor. The two 767's just back from the desert are being converted into freighters one of the 767’s (fin 621 ex-NZ) came with a cargo door. What does all this mean? I don’t have a clue, your guess is just as good as mine..

I edited for an update of the latest rumour. The leased freighters are MD11's and AC is bringing back an additional 2 more 767's from the desert to be converted to freighters.

aero-singidunum · Post by **aero-singidunum** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:17 pm

Well story is that A/C will bring two of their (ex-Canadien) 767 and from desert and make cargo door at Boeing, and give to one of the cargo operators. Same story with MD 11, perhaps to be used to fly far east.

aero-singidunum · Post by **aero-singidunum** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:23 pm

Hey, if anyone knows more, please join

new rumor ,
name of company/operator, clues

aero-singidunum · Post by **aero-singidunum** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:26 pm

Air Canada, on behalf of itself and Gemini Air Cargo Inc. has applied to the CTA for exemption from certain parts of the Canada Transportation Act to allow Air Canada Cargo to wet-lease MD-11Fs from Gemini Air Cargo between November 1 and April 30, 2005. The new arrangement is being set up to replace capacity lost with the retirement this week of the last two Boeing 747-400 combis. The new all-cargo flights will operate from Toronto to Frankfurt, and also from Toronto via Halifax to Vitoria Spain and Frankfurt. The Halifax-Vitoria flights are for seafood shipments primarily. The CTA has approved the application with the proviso that commercial control of the flights shall be maintained by Air Canada, with Gemini maintaining operational control of the flights and shall receive payment based on the rental of aircraft and crew and not on the basis of the volume of traffic carried or other revenue-sharing formula. Also, no local traffic may be carried between Toronto and Halifax.

teacher · Post by **teacher** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:35 am

Wasn't All Canada Express suppossed to fly this route for Air Canada with their new DC-10's?

Rebel · Post by **Rebel** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:40 pm

Air Canada Cargo Launches Toronto-Frankfurt Freighter Service; Increases Cargo Capacity in Western Canada

MONTREAL, Nov. 3 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada Cargo today announced that it has increased cargo capacity significantly on the north Atlantic and in Canada with the launch of new dedicated freighter services. Through a lease agreement with Gemini Air Cargo, Air Canada Cargo has introduced five times weekly freighter service between Toronto and Frankfurt. With a total cargo capacity of 85 tonnes, the McDonnell Douglas MD-11 service represents a 16 per cent increase in available weight capacity.

In addition, Air Canada Cargo has boosted freight capacity within Canada through an agreement with Cargojet Airways. Using Boeing 727 cargo aircraft on the Toronto-Calgary-Vancouver route, Air Canada Cargo provides its customers with an additional 18 tonnes of upper deck capacity four days per week. "With the launch of dedicated all-freight services on key routes in Canada and over the North Atlantic, Air Canada Cargo is strengthening its position in the highly competitive cargo business by introducing new services that complement our shared capacity with Air Canada's passenger operations," said Claude Morin, Vice President, Air Canada Cargo. "Today, with Air Canada having successfully restructured its business and reduced costs to competitive levels, Air Canada Cargo is positioned to succeed as a stand alone business unit. Air Canada Cargo is focused on pursuing strategic growth opportunities in response to demand from freight forwarders and industry clients while meeting their needs on a world wide scale." Air Canada Cargo is a limited partnership of ACE Aviation Holdings, Inc. It offers cargo services on domestic Canada, U. S. transborder and international flights operated by Air Canada. Cargo services include guaranteed choice of flight airport-to-airport services for high priority shipments (AC Expedair and AC Priority), and air freight services (AC Air Freight), to Air Canada destinations world wide. Air Canada Cargo provide direct air cargo service to approximately 225 Canadian and international destinations and has sales representation in more than 50 countries.