A. I. Root, liar no. 4 after the Wright Brothers and their mentor, Octave Chanute

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1) The ailerons were not invented by the Wright brothers. Their description appears in a 1868 patent.
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See: Matthew Piers Watt Boulton's 1868 aileron patent, No. 392

2) Henri Farman flew without ailerons of any kind for up to 42 km, in close circuit. It is a myth that Wing Warping or ailerons in general were essential for making turns.
- January 13, 1908---the first complete circuit of 1000m, 1:28 min.
- March 21---DURATION AND DISTANCE RECORD flight of 2004.8 m in 3:31 min.
- July 6, 1908---At Issy, Farman flew 20 km in 19:6 min.
- September 29, 1908---42 km in 43 min. at Mourmelon.
- September 30, 1908---34 km in 35:36 min. at Mourmelon.
- October 2, 1908---40 km in 44:32 min. at Mourmelon.
- October 28, 1908---M. Painleve carried about two km and other flights made up to 40 km. Ailerons put on.
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I bet you're fun at parties.
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lownslow wrote:I bet you're fun at parties.
I just spat my coffee reading that! (Thanks now I need a new keyboard!)
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And he gets all the girls
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The Wright brothers = just NOISE IN NEWSPAPERS before August 8, 1908

Read the text below, dated October 6, 1905, which talks about a lot of witnesses, including authorities from different towns, admiring the Wrights flying, on a daily basis. Needless to say that no name is mentioned. The credibility of such SF articles is zero.

The Flight of a flying Machine
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Was in the Air Twenty-Five Minutes Thursday Afternoon Near Simms Station.
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WRIGHT BROTHERS HAVE PERFECTED INVENTION.
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Have Been Experimenting All Week on the Huffman Prairies, East of Dayton, With Their Aeroplane.
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LARGE PARTY SEES TESTS.
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The Inventors and Builders of the Machine Have Built a Shed on the Prairie for Storing the Big Air Ship — Flights Have Startled the Residents of the Neighborhood. Great Interest Manifested.
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With improvements innumerable made to their craft, after months of work, Orville and Wilbur Wright, the youthful Dayton inventors, are making a series of flights in the vicinity of Simm’s Station, on the Dayton, Springfield and Urbana electric road, several miles from Dayton. These trials have been undisputedly some of the most successful expeditions that flying machines have ever made.
Residents of the locality where the experiments have been lately carried on turn out en masse at each ascension, and predict great results from the enterprise of the two Daytonians.
Likewise, many from Dayton and a number of authorities from different towns are daily witnesses of the remarkable flights, and are similarly profuse in their predictions of success.
Thursday afternoon a flight was made, and according to reliable witnesses, the machine soared gracefully for some 25 minutes, responding to all demands of the pilot. At the expiration of this time, fear that the machine could not be sustained aloft much longer, a descent was made by one of the inventors.
Every day this week flights have been made, almost, with equal success.
The expectations of the Wright brothers have been decidedly surpassed by their most recent experiments, and they feel that their craft is in the immediate neighborhood of perfection.
The brothers have been experimenting for the past two years. Their first successes attracted wide attention and were chronicled throughout the country.
Several Dayton people went out to the Huffman prairies Thursday afternoon to witness the trials. Some time ago the Wright brothers, who are both expert mechanics, conceived the idea of building a flying machine. They made some of their drawings in this city and from here they went to South Carolina to build the machine and try it out. They worked diligently to perfect their plans and finally succeeded in building a machine which would fly.
They gave the machine a severe tryout on one of the long stretches of beach in the south, and after a stay of over two years they returned to Dayton and built a shed on the Huffman prairies, where they are giving their machine a thorough test.

Source: “The Flight of a Flying Machine”, Dayton Daily News, Ohio, US, October 6, 1905, Scrapbook - Library of Congress, US.
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goldeneagle wrote:
ozon wrote: Detail of the well known picture allegedly taken on December 17, 1903.
You are aware that the photo in question was taken by an army photographer who validated it?
Are you sure he didn't photoshop it? :shock:
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Russian collusion is my guess. :smt015
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