Need a copy of the old TP-2943 PLPM

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Gilles Hudicourt
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Need a copy of the old TP-2943 PLPM

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I am looking for a copy of the old Transport Canada document TP-2943 Personnel Licensing Procedures Manual.

I specifically need the Chapter 12, "Validation of Foreign Licences"

If anyone has a copy that they could send me, please email me or PM me for making arrangements.

Thanks.

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You can access a copy from the Libraries and Archives Canada, Government of Canada Web Archive.

A copy of TP 2943 - Personnel Licensing Procedures Manual is available from the archive website version dated 2007-11-16.
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CD wrote:You can access a copy from the Libraries and Archives Canada, Government of Canada Web Archive.

A copy of TP 2943 - Personnel Licensing Procedures Manual is available from the archive website version dated 2007-11-16.
Thanks I found it.
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The following is the information from TP 2943, which was superceded by the initial issues of guidance documents SI 400-005 and AC 400-003, which were themselves superceded by the second issue of each in April 2011. I think all of this has been posted here before but there are so many different threads running on the same topic it's tough to keep track. :smt017

TP 2943, Chapter 12 was cancelled on 2009-06-02 when SI 400-005 Issue 01 and AC 400-003 Issue 01 were published:
2.2 Cancelled Documents
(1) As of the effective date of this document, the following document is cancelled:

(a) Personnel Licensing Procedures Manual (PLPM), Chapter 12, dated 2006-05—Validation of Foreign Licences
TP 2943 - Personnel Licensing Procedures Manual
SIXTH EDITION - Updated May 2006

Chapter 12 - Validation of Foreign Licences

1 VALIDATION CRITERIA


(a) Normally Commercial FLVCs are to be issued by Headquarters.
(b) In order to prevent the issue of a Foreign Licence Validation Certificate to applicants who have previously been denied a Canadian licence on medical grounds, a computer search should be made prior to the issue of the certificate.
(c) A foreign licence may not be validated for privileges if the applicant has failed the equivalent Canadian test.

2 FOREIGN TEMPORARY LICENCE
A temporary foreign licence may be validated for a period of 90 days or a period not to exceed the validity of the temporary foreign licence, whichever is the lesser.

3 EXCEPTION TO NORMAL REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A FLVC
Under the following conditions a foreign pilot may fly aircraft registered in Canada without Canadian validation of their licences:

(a) all flights must be non-commercial;
(b) the flight crew member must be properly licensed and qualified;
(c) the aircraft must be operated within the boundaries of the state that issued the licence; and
(d) the state that issued the licence must have no objection.

4 METHOD OF VALIDATION
When issued, the FLVC will be assigned the appropriate 5802 series file number prefixed by the licensing designator FV (e.g., FV472199). The wording used for the privileges appearing on the document shall be in accordance with Appendix C to this Chapter.

5 NAME ON DOCUMENT
If there is a discrepancy between the name on the foreign licence and the proof of identification, the Foreign Licence Validation Certificate shall be endorsed with the name on the foreign licence.

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Appendix C
Examples
Foreign Licence Validation Certificates

NOTE: For wording which differs from these examples, please contact Headquarters.


FERRY
(issued by HQ & Regions)

FERRYING CANADIAN REGISTERED (TYPE) AIRCRAFT FROM (COUNTRY) TO (COUNTRY) IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PRIVILEGES OF THE (FOREIGN COUNTRY'S) LICENCE

NO PASSENGER CARRYING FOR HIRE OR REWARD

CUSTOMER ACCEPTANCE/FERRY FLIGHT IN CANADIAN REGISTERED (TYPE or TYPES) DISPLAYING CANADIAN MARKS PURSUANT TO CAR 202.14 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PRIVILEGES OF THE (FOREIGN COUNTRY'S) LICENCE


RECREATION (issued by HQ & Regions)

PRIVATE RECREATIONAL PURPOSES ON CANADIAN REGISTERED AIRCRAFT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PRIVILEGES OF THE (FOREIGN COUNTRY'S) LICENCE

NOTE: Private Recreational purposes includes receiving flight training


TRAINING (issued by HQ & Regions)

PROVIDING FLIGHT TRAINING TO FLIGHT CREW EMPLOYED BY (COMPANY) ON CANADIAN REGISTERED (TYPE) AIRCRAFT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PRIVILEGES OF THE (FOREIGN COUNTRY'S) LICENCE

RECEIVING FLIGHT TRAINING ON CANADIAN REGISTERED (TYPE) AIRCRAFT OPERATED BY (COMPANY) IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PRIVILEGES OF THE (FOREIGN COUNTRY'S) LICENCE


COMMERCIAL (issued by HQ only)

PILOTING CANADIAN REGISTERED (TYPE) AIRCRAFT OPERATED BY (COMPANY), {IN (COUNTRY/RIES)optional}, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PRIVILEGES OF THE (FOREIGN COUNTRY'S) LICENCE

CO-PILOT DUTIES ON CANADIAN REGISTERED (TYPE) AIRCRAFT OPERATED BY (COMPANY) {IN (COUNTRY/RIES) optional}, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PRIVILEGES OF THE (FOREIGN COUNTRY'S) LICENCE

FLIGHT ENGINEER DUTIES ON CANADIAN REGISTERED (TYPE) AIRCRAFT OPERATED BY (COMPANY) IN (COUNTRY/RIES) optional}, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PRIVILEGES OF THE (FOREIGN COUNTRY'S) LICENCE
SI 400-005 Foreign Licence Validation Certificate
Issue No.: 01
Effective Date: 2009-06-02

4.5 Considerations for Validating Foreign Licenses for Commercial Purposes

1. Licensing staff should not accept applications to validate a foreign licence for commercial purposes directly from the licence holder. Licensing staff should accept such requests only from a Canadian or foreign air operator on behalf of pilots the operator proposes to employ.

2. When an air operator requests a validation on behalf of a pilot, licensing staff must ensure that the documentation from the air operator includes a written statement confirming that the air operator has verified that the pilot is properly qualified and holds a licence and medical certificate that are valid in accordance with the law of the state that issued the licence.

3. It is not in the public interest to issue a FLVC to holders of foreign licenses when they also hold an equivalent level of Canadian licence, whether or not that licence is kept current or valid.

4. Documentation provided by the air operator must clearly identify the nature of the operation to be undertaken by the foreign pilot, where the operation will be conducted, and the length of time for which the foreign licence must be validated.

5. The submission from the air operator must clearly establish why a foreign pilot is required and why holders of Canadian licences cannot be used.

6. Care must be taken to ensure that a FLVC does not become a mechanism for operators to hire foreign pilots in favour of available, experienced and qualified holders of Canadian licences. The POI for the company is a good source of information about the availability of appropriately qualified and experienced holders of Canadian licences. If any doubt exists about the issuance of a FLVC for commercial purposes, regional licensing staff should contact the Flight Crew Licensing division of the Standards branch.

7. When validating a foreign licence for commercial purposes, it is important to restrict the validation to the specific operation and time period identified by the air operator.
AC 400-003 Foreign Licence Validation Certificates
Issue No.: 01
Effective Date: 2009-10-01

4.0 APPLYING FOR A FOREIGN LICENCE VALIDATION CERTIFICATE

(5) Additional requirements when validation is requested for commercial purposes

(a) The Air Operator wishing to employ a foreign-licensed pilot must submit the application on behalf of the pilot. Applications for validation for commercial purposes will not be accepted directly from pilots.
(b) The air operator must provide a statement that it has verified that the foreign licence and medical certificate are valid in accordance with the laws of the state that issued the licence. Further verification with the issuing authority will not normally be required. Transport Canada will not normally need to verify the authenticity of the foreign licence by contacting the Civil Aviation Authority that issued the document when confirmation has been received from the air operator requesting the validation.
(c) The Air Operator requesting the validation must provide details of the nature of the operation to be conducted by the foreign licence holder, the area of operation and the length of the time for which the validation requested.
(d) The Air Operator requesting the Foreign Licence Validation Certificate must explain why appropriately qualified holders of Canadian licences are not reasonably available to meet the operator’s needs.
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Re: Need a copy of the old TP-2943 PLPM

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All great stuff, thanks.
And thanks to your link I found that deleted TC Web page that says :
Please note that the Foreign Licence Validation Certificate is not a Canadian licence.
That is going to help me a whole lot.
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(d) The Air Operator requesting the Foreign Licence Validation Certificate must explain why appropriately qualified holders of Canadian licences are not reasonably available to meet the operator’s needs.
And therein lies an interesting situation, generally you follow the money trail.

There is usually a Quid pro quo on one or both sides when determining the outcome of these issues.
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