Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

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Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by FlyingMonkey » Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:21 pm

Is there anybody in the upcoming Jazz ground schools that has fewer than 1500 hrs TT?

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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by moe » Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:45 pm

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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by FlyingMonkey » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:39 pm

Insightful......

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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by flythatwing » Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:42 pm

Yup! Got a call with 1400 (lots of IFR and a decent amount of SPIFR time) but had to turn it down... After 4 years in Aviation I have gotten used to the name brand Kraft Dinner I can't go back to the No Name again thanks.
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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by Johnny#5 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:20 pm

How many hours do Seneca grads have?
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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by BE20 Driver » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:31 am

flythatwing wrote:Yup! Got a call with 1400 (lots of IFR and a decent amount of SPIFR time)
At 1400 hours, you don't have lots of anything except maybe enthusiasm. :wink:
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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by timel » Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:42 am

Johnny#5 wrote:How many hours do Seneca grads have?
If similar to the CQFA grant, it must be around 250 hours.

Otherwise, I guess the 1500 hours is still accurate.
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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by flythatwing » Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:33 am

BE20 Driver wrote:
flythatwing wrote:Yup! Got a call with 1400 (lots of IFR and a decent amount of SPIFR time)
At 1400 hours, you don't have lots of anything except maybe enthusiasm. :wink:
Haha well while I appreciate your enthusiasm I clearly meant lots of ifr within the 1400 total time not in general ;).
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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by AuxBatOn » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:22 am

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flythatwing wrote:Yup! Got a call with 1400 (lots of IFR and a decent amount of SPIFR time)
At 1400 hours, you don't have lots of anything except maybe enthusiasm. :wink:
Quick to judge!
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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by iflyforpie » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:06 am

AuxBatOn wrote:
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flythatwing wrote:Yup! Got a call with 1400 (lots of IFR and a decent amount of SPIFR time)
At 1400 hours, you don't have lots of anything except maybe enthusiasm. :wink:
Quick to judge!
Touché

What does the average Hornet driver have 'not lots of'? :D
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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by AuxBatOn » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:09 am

I was thinking more of the C-17 guys with 1500 hrs, 750 of which are as AC on a heavy aircraft with lots of hours in combat zones... Most of them are IPs and Instrument Check Pilots.

These guys have lot more than just enthusiasm... And lot more to offer than a 3000 hours King Air driver, imo.
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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by FlyingMonkey » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:35 am

flythatwing, thanks for posting! I'm sitting at 1425 with 300 or so hours turbine and no call yet. Not sure if I want the position if it was offered, but I was curious the TT of the guys and gals getting calls.

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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by BE20 Driver » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:03 pm

AuxBatOn wrote:Quick to judge!
It was meant tongue-in-cheek. I didn't have a lot of things when I had 1400 hours either. My enthusiasm was greatly tempered by the company I was working for at the time as well.

Good luck in what ever you choose as an alternate to Jazz.
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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by Hudson » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:59 pm

Anybody in a GS with next to no multi time? What about little IFR time?
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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by goingnowherefast » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:23 pm

So it's come to this, people bragging about how little experience they had when Jazz called. I'd hope that the "leading" regional airline in Canada would require at least the airline license.
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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by Rowdy » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:42 pm

goingnowherefast wrote:So it's come to this, people bragging about how little experience they had when Jazz called. I'd hope that the "leading" regional airline in Canada would require at least the airline license.
Why? its not needed til the upgrade AND thats going to be a good long while..
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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by Illya Kuryakin » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:37 pm

I guy with 1400 hours turning down Jazz? Uness it's F18, or C5A time, he'll probably live to regret that.
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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by Hudson » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:54 pm

[quote="goingnowherefast"]So it's come to this, people bragging about how little experience they had when Jazz called. I'd hope that the "leading" regional [b]airline[/b] in Canada would require at least the [b]airline[/b] license.[/quote]

I was asking because I'm from the bush and my time is mostly single engine day VFR time and am wondering if Jazz would consider this. I do have a multi IFR but it never gets used. I am also short on night time for the ATPL but have everything else, including the exams written.

So how 'bout it? Anybody in a Jazz GS with the same kind of experience?
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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by Bajan Pilot » Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:59 am

No offence meant, but if you don't have some multi experience you will be hard pressed to make through the sim eval.
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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by KK7 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:54 am

goingnowherefast wrote:So it's come to this, people bragging about how little experience they had when Jazz called. I'd hope that the "leading" regional airline in Canada would require at least the airline license.
How much experience do you need to sit in the right seat of the DHC-8?
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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by YYZSaabGuy » Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:08 am

KK7 wrote:
goingnowherefast wrote:So it's come to this, people bragging about how little experience they had when Jazz called. I'd hope that the "leading" regional airline in Canada would require at least the airline license.
How much experience do you need to sit in the right seat of the DHC-8?
That depends on whether or not my family is on board......
And on whether you expect the right-seater to act as a pilot or as ballast.
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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by flythatwing » Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:25 am

Illya Kuryakin wrote:I guy with 1400 hours turning down Jazz? Uness it's F18, or C5A time, he'll probably live to regret that.
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Trust me I will never regret it.... This industry hasn't completely erased my self-worth and respect , there's no way I'm takin 34.5K a year to practise my profession and just to sit there for 5 years then go over to mainline to start all over again (maybe even for less $$ by that time)! No thank you!

I don't understand why any of you is surprised, Jazz has hired a fair bit of school grads and pilots under 1000 hrs (I know a few, hence the internal recommend and the call) and I expect the mins will go down as those dollar figures get more and more insulting... I was always interested in flying for jazz, but after seeing the new wages I don't think the airlines are in my future anymore, maybe the arctic regionals in the future if they don't follow suit and offer McDonald wages too but otherwise I am quite happy flying 703-704 in the prairies and making a livable wage.

And to all the other pilots out there considering this "career opportunity", please have some self-respect and self-worth and stop whoring yourselves for that airline suit and airline hat...The chicks won't dig your broke ass, your parents have supported you r grown ass long enough already, and the bank won't take your right seat Q400 time for a mortgage downpayment... I bet you the guy/gal sitting across the table doing your interview has no respect for you and think of you as a dummy for accepting such wages and work conditions.

Rant over. Gotta go warm up those engines it's -40 outside.

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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by flythatwing » Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:30 am

YYZSaabGuy wrote:
KK7 wrote:
goingnowherefast wrote:So it's come to this, people bragging about how little experience they had when Jazz called. I'd hope that the "leading" regional airline in Canada would require at least the airline license.
How much experience do you need to sit in the right seat of the DHC-8?
That depends on whether or not my family is on board......
And on whether you expect the right-seater to act as a pilot or as ballast.

Let's face it.. You don't care who's flying, you don't know who's flying (could be a fresh flight college grade) and you're gonna book the cheapest seats you can find. It's not like anyone could go to the cockpit and ask the pilots for their logbooks.
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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by Canoehead » Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:42 am

flythatwing,

Do you mind if I ask your age?
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Re: Jazz GS with under 1500 hrs TT

Post by YYZSaabGuy » Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:21 am

flythatwing wrote:
YYZSaabGuy wrote:
KK7 wrote:How much experience do you need to sit in the right seat of the DHC-8?
That depends on whether or not my family is on board......
And on whether you expect the right-seater to act as a pilot or as ballast.
Let's face it.. You don't care who's flying, you don't know who's flying (could be a fresh flight college grade) and you're gonna book the cheapest seats you can find. It's not like anyone could go to the cockpit and ask the pilots for their logbooks.
The question wasn't how I personally select airlines. The question was how much experience was "needed", which I interpreted as what the airline's requirements should be.
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