What exactly were these chopper cops saying YWG
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What exactly were these chopper cops saying YWG
Just curious what cops actually say....
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33253979
Canada helicopter sex chat heard by Winnipeg public
Canadian police have apologised after an explicit conversation was inadvertently broadcast from one of its helicopters.
Whilst on patrol over Winnipeg, the chopper's crew accidentally turned on its loudspeaker allowing members of the public below to hear them.
Those listening say they heard pilots swearing and discussing oral sex.
Winnipeg Police Service say some of the "conversation was inappropriate" and have promised an internal review.
Brandi Armstrong told CBC news that she had been sitting in her garden on Monday evening as the helicopter flew over and was shocked by the exchange.
"My jaw hit the ground; eyes bulged out," she said.
She added that she would like to see the pilots punished. The police say that they are considering disciplinary measures.
Another resident walking near the city's legislature building overhead a different, expletive-laden discussion about money.
The officers were unaware that the loudspeaker was on due to the noise from the helicopter's engine.
Residents listening below began to tweet to the city's police department as the pilots continued talking.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33253979
Canada helicopter sex chat heard by Winnipeg public
Canadian police have apologised after an explicit conversation was inadvertently broadcast from one of its helicopters.
Whilst on patrol over Winnipeg, the chopper's crew accidentally turned on its loudspeaker allowing members of the public below to hear them.
Those listening say they heard pilots swearing and discussing oral sex.
Winnipeg Police Service say some of the "conversation was inappropriate" and have promised an internal review.
Brandi Armstrong told CBC news that she had been sitting in her garden on Monday evening as the helicopter flew over and was shocked by the exchange.
"My jaw hit the ground; eyes bulged out," she said.
She added that she would like to see the pilots punished. The police say that they are considering disciplinary measures.
Another resident walking near the city's legislature building overhead a different, expletive-laden discussion about money.
The officers were unaware that the loudspeaker was on due to the noise from the helicopter's engine.
Residents listening below began to tweet to the city's police department as the pilots continued talking.
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Re: What exactly were these chopper cops saying YWG
Give me a break. It was an honest mistake, what the heck else do you suppose they'd be talking about?Johnny#5 wrote:numbskulls.....
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I don't know.....perhaps trying to find people committing crimes or saving lives. When it is possible to be transmitting unintentionally(boom mics), be careful with your words.
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Personally I find it a bit disturbing that a pilot can't differentiate between the appropriateness of professional conduct on the job and the need to focus on (his) personal sex drive.
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Personally speaking when the conversation in the cockpit strays into areas best not overheard I always check that we don't have a stuck mike. Just a guess, but I'm thinking these guys might incorporate something like that when they go flying in the future.
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One cop asked another for a blow job with a response that they were to hairy, my guess is it was actually 2 guys to
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Oh give me a break. When there's two pilots flying together they talk about all kinds of stuff. Not being male yourself, and of course I want to be very careful not to be accused of participating in "rape culture" here so I have to say this very carefully, (I don't want to "assault" you by verbalizing an opinion that isn't consistent with the fem-supremacy agenda), maybe you are not aware that this is pretty much all young men talk about. You think you have some idea of the male psyche but believe me you don't. I'm not sure what you expect them to be doing in there as they fly around in circles. Rehearsing standard calls or emergency procedures? Sitting in total silence? Would it be less disturbing to you if they were talking about pinterest or a baby shower? Try not to be such a purse-mouthed old aunty. I'm sure two women the same age in that cockpit would have been talking about equally shocking things. Maybe worse.snoopy wrote:Personally I find it a bit disturbing that a pilot can't differentiate between the appropriateness of professional conduct on the job and the need to focus on (his) personal sex drive.
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BeaverDreamer wrote:Give me a break. It was an honest mistake, what the heck else do you suppose they'd be talking about?Johnny#5 wrote:numbskulls.....
Yeah no kidding... I was thinking the other day if the pax right behind me can hear our conversations being in an open cabin and the answer is probably yes.
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With all due respect Meatservo, my comment made no reference to any presumed level of knowledge of "male phsyche" but you seem to have no trouble making generalized assumptions on what makes up the "female phsyche".
I expect any pilot that is on the job to be professional and do that job to the best of his or her abilities. I would also expect that same pilot to exercise a level of sophistication and tact. Thankfully I don't share your low opinion of your own gender - rather I prefer to think of you as the exception, not the norm.
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I expect any pilot that is on the job to be professional and do that job to the best of his or her abilities. I would also expect that same pilot to exercise a level of sophistication and tact. Thankfully I don't share your low opinion of your own gender - rather I prefer to think of you as the exception, not the norm.
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I don't think it was the pilot either to be honest
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I find this conversation and the actual event being discussed absolutely hilarious!
On the way back from on a (3 ship formation) charter, my two coworkers and I decided to chat amongst ourselves on a discreet frequency. One of my co-workers suggested that we ensure that our intercoms were "isolated".
As it turned out, we discussed all sorts of professional issues such as but not limited to: Funny anecdotes such as living/working overseas, flying Russian hookers in the Middle East, ex wives and how I once fooled around with our Provincial Premiere's Scottish nanny whom happened to be... Volumtiously chested and well... "Freaky" in the sack.
We all had a good laugh, until later that day my colleague whom originally suggested we switch on the "isolation switch" admitted that he accidentally switched his switch "ON"!
His front seat passenger whom hailed from Toerontoe, thanked him profusely at the end of the flight for "calming her nervous flying jitters by "the light hearted conversation"". She also happened to be Scottish, a red head to boot, was not small chested and thought it hilarious that a bushpilot had once fooled around with the nanny of a current "Premier" in the "nanny suite" within earshot of a major political player!
Get off your high horse Snoopy, we are all human, and are all capable of banter while exercising our professional duties. Sometimes, an oversight such as what occurred to the cops in YWG happens to the best of us! (It did to me, and as glad as I was no one complained, thought it rather humorous!)
All the best, and I hope you sleep tight this evening!
TPC
On the way back from on a (3 ship formation) charter, my two coworkers and I decided to chat amongst ourselves on a discreet frequency. One of my co-workers suggested that we ensure that our intercoms were "isolated".
As it turned out, we discussed all sorts of professional issues such as but not limited to: Funny anecdotes such as living/working overseas, flying Russian hookers in the Middle East, ex wives and how I once fooled around with our Provincial Premiere's Scottish nanny whom happened to be... Volumtiously chested and well... "Freaky" in the sack.
We all had a good laugh, until later that day my colleague whom originally suggested we switch on the "isolation switch" admitted that he accidentally switched his switch "ON"!
His front seat passenger whom hailed from Toerontoe, thanked him profusely at the end of the flight for "calming her nervous flying jitters by "the light hearted conversation"". She also happened to be Scottish, a red head to boot, was not small chested and thought it hilarious that a bushpilot had once fooled around with the nanny of a current "Premier" in the "nanny suite" within earshot of a major political player!
Get off your high horse Snoopy, we are all human, and are all capable of banter while exercising our professional duties. Sometimes, an oversight such as what occurred to the cops in YWG happens to the best of us! (It did to me, and as glad as I was no one complained, thought it rather humorous!)
All the best, and I hope you sleep tight this evening!
TPC
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C'mon TPC, do you mean you don't just talk about VSpeeds and Pax standards weights for 8 hours in a cockpit? I know that's what gets my rooster crowing.... lets grab a Shirley temple next time you're in YOW and we'll have a rousing good rib tickle over Fowler flaps.
The poor guys did mess up large.... They'll probably be disciplined because obviously it can't fly with the public, and that's totally understandable. Some people will be understandably offended.
Personally I found it absolutely hilarious, but it's a screw-up none the less. If I were on the streets of Winterpeg at the time I'd probably be doubled over with laughter and soiling my pants from pure exertion of hilarity. Poor guys. You can't defend the mistake, but you can understand it.
While it might seem great on paper, it's going way to far to say you have to watch what you're saying all the time during your entire shift. That's not fair or realistic. Despite what some will say, being a cop is a stressful job.
The poor guys did mess up large.... They'll probably be disciplined because obviously it can't fly with the public, and that's totally understandable. Some people will be understandably offended.
Personally I found it absolutely hilarious, but it's a screw-up none the less. If I were on the streets of Winterpeg at the time I'd probably be doubled over with laughter and soiling my pants from pure exertion of hilarity. Poor guys. You can't defend the mistake, but you can understand it.
While it might seem great on paper, it's going way to far to say you have to watch what you're saying all the time during your entire shift. That's not fair or realistic. Despite what some will say, being a cop is a stressful job.
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My colleague at work had a brilliant suggestion to launch Air-1 immediately in order to publicly broadcast a retraction and apology while overflying Winnipeg's Northend and Westend!
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The solution is simple, voice recorders in all police vehicles. To be archived, played back in public and reviewed by a citizens review board (daily) to make sure we drive any human tendency out of our police officers. Ya that I'll do it. The best part is the review committee would have to be comprised of 5 people ( no tie decisions) comprising one member each from the lesbian and gay communities, a transgender and a straight man and woman to ensure no gender bias in its decisions. Of course these would be civil service jobs. I see a win win.
Or go to a comedy club. Seriously people this is funny stuff. Got to love Winnipeg.
Or go to a comedy club. Seriously people this is funny stuff. Got to love Winnipeg.
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I'll be there first to admit that I wouldn't want some of my conversations in the flight deck broadcast over a loud speaker or stuck mic. And while I think there are varying opinions on what constitutes appropriate flight deck discussion, meatservo's comments about the "male psyche" are just about the most idiotic sentences I've ever seen written on AvCanada in my 15 years on the site (and there's been some pretty stupid stuff written here).
There are so many logical fallacies in that post that I don't even know where to begin. It's possible to disagree with Snoopy's opinion without painting all men and women with grossly inaccurate stereotypes. If you disagree with Snoopy's opinion about what constitutes appropriate flight deck discussion, that's great, don't suggest that all men think that this type of discussion is appropriate or that all older women would rather discuss pinterest or baby showers.
Personally, I just find the whole episode funny. Did the discussion cross the line or appropriate work discussion between cops? Maybe, but as I'm not a cop and am not subjected to the same stresses they are, I'm not one to judge. If you're in a flight deck where you are with a pilot whom you know well and have developed a rapport with, then you'll have an idea of what appropriate flight deck discussion is. While these discussions should not have been broadcast on the loud speaker - did they affect the safety of the flight? Did they make any of the crew member uncomfortable? I can't say.
As a police helicopter though, did the comments make any Winnipeggers have less faith/trust in the police? Maybe.
There are so many logical fallacies in that post that I don't even know where to begin. It's possible to disagree with Snoopy's opinion without painting all men and women with grossly inaccurate stereotypes. If you disagree with Snoopy's opinion about what constitutes appropriate flight deck discussion, that's great, don't suggest that all men think that this type of discussion is appropriate or that all older women would rather discuss pinterest or baby showers.
Personally, I just find the whole episode funny. Did the discussion cross the line or appropriate work discussion between cops? Maybe, but as I'm not a cop and am not subjected to the same stresses they are, I'm not one to judge. If you're in a flight deck where you are with a pilot whom you know well and have developed a rapport with, then you'll have an idea of what appropriate flight deck discussion is. While these discussions should not have been broadcast on the loud speaker - did they affect the safety of the flight? Did they make any of the crew member uncomfortable? I can't say.
As a police helicopter though, did the comments make any Winnipeggers have less faith/trust in the police? Maybe.
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JBI - you said it!
I found it hilarious what happened, but it does look bad, no matter how you play it. I seem to recall on another (now defunct) forum having the discussion about what constitutes professionalism in regards to radio calls (not stuck mikes) and people thought that all calls had to be formal and proper. Even in that situation, at appropriate (i.e. slow) times, it's okay to occasionally add in a "human interest" comment. I think that people don't realize that for pilots, the cockpit is our office- imagine trying to sit in your office all day and never ever discuss anything other than business. Not only tough, but really dry and boring...
Now I think I'll run off to my baby shower...maybe I'll take my knitting with me....
...or maybe I'll take my motorcycle to my dojo and run through some katas - how's that for a middle aged auntie, meatservo? )
I found it hilarious what happened, but it does look bad, no matter how you play it. I seem to recall on another (now defunct) forum having the discussion about what constitutes professionalism in regards to radio calls (not stuck mikes) and people thought that all calls had to be formal and proper. Even in that situation, at appropriate (i.e. slow) times, it's okay to occasionally add in a "human interest" comment. I think that people don't realize that for pilots, the cockpit is our office- imagine trying to sit in your office all day and never ever discuss anything other than business. Not only tough, but really dry and boring...
Now I think I'll run off to my baby shower...maybe I'll take my knitting with me....
...or maybe I'll take my motorcycle to my dojo and run through some katas - how's that for a middle aged auntie, meatservo? )
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Well, I'm sure that 'YouTwitFace' is having a field day with the comments, but who amongst us hasn't had a little finger trouble once or twice? The appropriateness of the convo depends on the audience - in this case, each thought that the audience was the guy sitting next to him. Unfortunate timing for that finger trouble.
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I've discussed standard passenger weights in the cockpit...and how all passengers always average out to be exactly correct 100% of the time...
Who hasn't talked about that passenger they had that was nicely under the standard weight? I was flying a couple female passengers one day, and as I'm going back to open the door, I walk into a conversation about the pilot who flew them the previous day. He was apparently "yummy". I had a good chuckle, because I knew who they were talking about.
Who hasn't talked about that passenger they had that was nicely under the standard weight? I was flying a couple female passengers one day, and as I'm going back to open the door, I walk into a conversation about the pilot who flew them the previous day. He was apparently "yummy". I had a good chuckle, because I knew who they were talking about.