Toronto to Niagara in 15 minutes

[pdw]

Scheduled for 3, each way; a one year committment to our airport was mentioned at the last AGM. There are on demand charters in between these schedules, which would be reliable revenue in combination with the pledged flight times, so that is over and above the 6 legs at the present time. That year is up in September, so then we can get the official update how ridership is evolving on that basis.

[DanJ]

The London Free Press is reporting this airline is having a press conference on Tuesday to announce expanded service to up to 3 more cities, London being one.

http://www.lfpress.com/2017/10/06/londo ... nto-island

[GyvAir]

Looks like they have Kasper's old Airvan, plus one more on their fleet now. Hopefully that's an indicator of a successful plan on thier part.

Personally, though, I won't be booking a flight with them unless they start featuring the CN tower in more of their gallery photos.

[rookiepilot]

The London Free Press is reporting this airline is having a press conference on Tuesday to announce expanded service to up to 3 more cities, London being one.

http://www.lfpress.com/2017/10/06/londo ... nto-island

Cool. Good for them.

[DanJ]

Looks like Waterloo and Barrie in November, London in December.

http://www.flygta.com/from-the-press/

[xysn]

Honestly I am baffled that this is still around but I'm glad it is!

http://www.niagarafallsreview.ca/2017/1 ... hancements

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“Our team is committed to a large-scale project with Niagara District Airport,” Nowrouzi said during a media conference Tuesday at Billy Bishop Airport in downtown Toronto.

That project includes a 3,600-square-metre maintenance hangar to be constructed next year, including a luxury terminal featuring “crew rest areas, planning areas, and everything that goes along with it,” he said.

“It will be very high-end luxury.”

When that initial facility is completed, Nowrouzi said the company hopes to begin construction of a second large hangar at the airport, part of a 50-year lease the commuter airline signed with the airport commission earlier this year.

The new facilities will help support additional services offered by the airline that currently carries up to eight passengers at a time between Niagara District and Billy Bishop airports — at a cost of $99 per one-way trip, tax included.

On Nov. 6, scheduled commuter flight services will be offered to Region of Waterloo International Airport, as well as Lake Simcoe Regional Airport in Barrie.

Flights between Toronto and those destinations are expected to take less than 20 minutes, and cost $129 each, tax included.

And before the end of the year, the company plans to offer scheduled service to London, Ont., International Airport as well.

Nowrouzi said the airline is investing in new aircraft to support the increased services, with plans to buy several planes to complement its existing fleet of eight passenger planes.

Although he described it as a substantial investment, Nowrouzi wouldn’t say how much his company plans to spend on the project.

But he is confident the numbers will add up, judging by the success his company has seen in Niagara.

Nowrouzi said demand quickly grew for the commuter flights his company began offering in September 2016, and the airline responded by doubling the flights between Niagara and Toronto.

And despite the $99 price tag, he said the commuter flights “make sense” once the cost of fuel and parking is added up, along with the time spent driving along the highways.

“A lot of our flights are full these days. It’s great,” Nowrouzi said.
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[jschnurr]

I too am surprised they're still around, but this wouldn't be the first airline that started with humble beginnings.

“It will be very high-end luxury.”

Nothing says "very high-end luxury" like the mighty PA31!

[rigpiggy]

Can you get more info on the lake crash ? The tragedy was a from a fuel issue ... and it hurt Niagara Airport business; locals were without a service. A good host airport/atmosphere is what's required to make it work.

http://www.aviation-safety.net/database ... 19870112-0

It was an air problem, not a fuel problem.

Too much air was in the tanks. Do not trust the guages on a cessna, or an islander, use the stick...

The passenger survived because he had more body fat, the wreck ended up at upper valley in chilliwack. The passenger is now in yyj.

[rookiepilot]

A common mistake I do see other businesses doing, is after initial success, expanding far too fast. I really hope this isn't the case with these guys. Not a lot of margin at 99 bucks a flight.

[pdw]

They've kept up the route for over a year now, so IMO if they want to they can sell it ... very easily. The route to Niagara (as a sched) didn't exist before. The other destinations may or may not have other competetors; they could just as well be an add-on, for the purpose of taking the piggy to market. Ever thought of that ?

[rookiepilot]

They've kept up the route for over a year now, so IMO if they want to they can sell it ... very easily. ?

Not to someone like me, they wouldn't. No bid. No real money in it. Future in question with train service coming to Niagara.

But I wish them well.

[pdw]

The G-train will be an hour and a half from Niagara to Toronto; ... longer than by car on good days.

Also, the Niagara to/from Barrie flights are now enabled, since the Niagara to Toronto return is running 4 times a day (which makes that connection possible, and helps overall ridership). The GO via Union to Barrie is longer than car or bus.

[golden hawk]

Nothing says "very high-end luxury" like the mighty PA31!

[pdw]

It seems to 'mark the spot' very well, .. ie we can see/hear them fly overhead every other hour; very sharp looking and well maintained.

What else could have possibly been used to improve on that sort of a niche (ie: as an upgrade) .. for these short flight-times, esp if mostly downtime during the startup months? They are going direct, over water, and with pax ... so still must be a twin. Fuel consumption as a direct expense is basically a meaningless expense (very short runs and fairly cheap) compared to if having the extreme overhead of ANYTHING brand new. The interest clock will still away when parked in-between short hops, with pilots on standby in the pilot's lounge ..

EDIT (re: comments below):
Regarding the cost per hour:
I'm sure"$600" must be tops, no? .. if negotiating costs well, without mistakes? Maybe 2 hours engine time daily, just for eight 12-15min flight-legs back and forth from Niagara. In the hangar overnight ensures easy start each time, for minimum warmup / time losses.

[rookiepilot]

What does it cost, all in, to run a PA 31 per hour, pilots, fuel, insurance, the works? I'm guessing 6-800 per hour.

That close?

[photofly]

There’s an article in on of those free mags, about the Navaho, and it quotes the direct operating costs of the airplane as $400/hr, so you’re probably about right.

[rookiepilot]

There’s an article in on of those free mags, about the Navaho, and it quotes the direct operating costs of the airplane as $400/hr, so you’re probably about right.

Direct? So -- add in pilots, indirect costs, reserves for OH, and an amount for CCA, you're easily $800+. Never mind admin....ect etc....now you're 1000. Better be running those 99 buck flights full. I wonder if they are profitable.

[pdw]

The only way you're going to better your business in this business to Niagara is having confident customers. So yeah, these volks basically want to see everybody involved doing their job well, plus having a good story to tell about their experience. Lots involved with sales -- like you're saying --- yet that's all that needs to be worked on ie not worry about how many 99s fly every day exactly .. that could only be counterproductive to building good ridership in the short term. Yes we're doing well, .. and that's it !

It's the long term sales strategy for success that counts.

In truth, and it's obvious these days (esp tonight's flight) the strategy employed to succeed here has been working. We're glad to finally have our own personal airline here in Niagara.

[jschnurr]

The place I used to work for charged $5 per statue mile on the '31. They filed at 180kts, so that's about $1000 per hour.

[Lotro]

I previously worked for an operator who had a Navajo available for charter at a rate of $1000/flight hour. I'd assume there's some (small) margin in there.