Man banned from Delta Flights after Pro - Trump Rant.

[geodoc]

Reading/listening to Canadian liberals opinions on the affairs of the US, is like listening to flight attendants tell each other how to fly the plane.

That.

And for all the crap the liberals said about how these crazy trump supporters might not accept the outcome of the election WHEN trump looses. I find it fan f'king tastically funny how they are crying up a storm and making all this fuss, it's like go sip a pumpkin spice latte in your Prius and STFU.

Heh man, cut me some slack, my std. brew is a 3-shot, 12 oz. Americano (black), an '01 Eurovan, a '73 Ducati, '67 Moto Guzzi and a '73 Triumph. All vehicles with IWW stickers!

G in YVR



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[Rockie]

Reading/listening to Canadian liberals opinions on the affairs of the US, is like listening to flight attendants tell each other how to fly the plane.

Believe me Nark, the rest of the would love to just sit in the audience and watch the gong show unfold and then go home and laugh at the absurdity of it all. Unfortunately though the United States is not Belize. What the US does has profound effects on the rest of us so yes, we care who leads your country.

Just like it matters to flight attendants if you're going to kill them or not.

[complexintentions]

Reading/listening to Canadian liberals opinions on the affairs of the US, is like listening to flight attendants tell each other how to fly the plane.

HAHAHAH best remark on the whole thread.

Believe me Nark, the rest of the would love to just sit in the audience and watch the gong show unfold and then go home and laugh at the absurdity of it all. Unfortunately though the United States is not Belize. What the US does has profound effects on the rest of us so yes, we care who leads your country.

Speak for yourself. I am absolutely loving sitting in the audience, enjoying the gong show - except it seems like it's more of a gong show outside of the US than in!

Just like it matters to flight attendants if you're going to kill them or not.

That has to be the stupidest attempt at an analogy I've heard in awhile lol. Not your best work, Rockie. But given your stress level over this whole US election thing, I can see why your flight attendants may be worried. Maybe you should take some time off?

I stepped away from this topic for a bit to go do some actual work, but now I'm a bit concerned. Is there someone I should call?

[Rockie]

You think you're isolated from the affects of US decisions Complex but you're not. For instance the global economic meltdown in 2008 was triggered by the US mortgage crisis caused by a reckless financial industry. Regulations were put in place to prevent the industry from taking those kinds of risk, and here we are eight years later finally enjoying some kind of stable recovery and along comes Trump who is going to remove those regulations thus allowing the financial industry to do it again. That's how I'd define stupidity.

Another one - Gulf War 2. How's that worked out for everyone?

And Trump is already well on his way to creating an economic and diplomatic rift between the US and China that will have huge consequences.

The FA/Pilot analogy is spot on as well and I'm surprised it needs to be explained to you. Here's a hint - the rest of the world doesn't get to vote in the US election, all we can do is watch and hope whoever is selected won't f**k it up. The rest of the world is very nervous right now.

[SuperchargedRS]

The US needs a trump, as for the housing meltdown, that guy was warning of that for YEARS.

Not a bad summery of him, but the housing bubble around 9:20
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OCabT_O0YSM

As for the rest of the world, and all the scared commies and socialists, I could give a crap, the US needs to focus on the US and drop his coddling and kiddie gloves we've had on for the last 8 years.

[CpnCrunch]

As for the rest of the world, and all the scared commies and socialists, I could give a crap, the US needs to focus on the US and drop his coddling and kiddie gloves we've had on for the last 8 years.

Great argument!

[Glasnost]

I wonder how many times an F/A has stopped a pilot from doing something stupid. I'm willing to bet more often than youd admit.

[pelmet]

I wonder how many times an F/A has stopped a pilot from doing something stupid. I'm willing to bet more often than youd admit.

You mean when off duty?

[B208]

What I object to is the end of American leadership in the free world because I think it's needed. What I object to is what Trump will do to the world. What I also object to is your opinion that me and everybody else should just shut up and accept what he will do without comment. Fat chance. The fact you think so shows you don't know how a free democratic society functions.

Well, Rockie, you should rejoice because you are about to see some actual leadership from the U.S.

I never said you shouldn't express your opinion. I would never curtail someone's ability to express an opinion by, say, banning them. That sort of behaviour is a sign of deficient confidence. I encourage you to say whatever comes to your mind at any point you feel like saying it. I reserve the right to tell you exactly why you are wrong.

WRT who has a better handle on how a free society functions; I simply point out that I am not the one aligning myself with the forces of political correctness.

[geodoc]

Well, Rockie, you should rejoice because you are about to see some actual leadership from the U.S.

Somehow, when contemplating his place in the presidential pantheon, Millard Filmore, Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan and Warren G. Harding most immediately come to mind.

[B208]

Well, Rockie, you should rejoice because you are about to see some actual leadership from the U.S.

Somehow, when contemplating his place in the presidential pantheon, Millard Filmore, Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan and Warren G. Harding most immediately come to mind.

Could be, but I suspect we are looking at more of a Teddy Roosevelt.

[mmm..bacon]

The same Teddy Roosevelt that put an anti-public school campaigner in charge of public schools? Or the TR who put a guy suing the EPA in charge of it?

Thats a pretty epic troll, 208!

[CpnCrunch]

WRT who has a better handle on how a free society functions; I simply point out that I am not the one aligning myself with the forces of political correctness.

Whining about an airline banning someone for an abusive outburst in a plane in case it curtains his right to political discourse and free speech appears to be a certain kind of twisted political correctness.

[Rookie50]

WRT who has a better handle on how a free society functions; I simply point out that I am not the one aligning myself with the forces of political correctness.

Whining about an airline banning someone for an abusive outburst in a plane in case it curtains his right to political discourse and free speech appears to be a certain kind of twisted political correctness.

Gee, listen to the whining about the Russians stealing the election from Hillary.

I think hearing that chatter on an aircraft should result in a lifetime ban too.

[B208]

WRT who has a better handle on how a free society functions; I simply point out that I am not the one aligning myself with the forces of political correctness.

Whining about an airline banning someone for an abusive outburst in a plane in case it curtains his right to political discourse and free speech appears to be a certain kind of twisted political correctness.

1.) The word you were looking for is curtails.
2.) Your understanding of political correctness appears to be limited. One of the core values of political correctness is the suppression of that which is not politically correct.
3.) As for Delta banning the fellow; That is well within their rights as a privately owned airline. However, if they want to make a political stand they should be prepared to eat the consequences.

[CpnCrunch]

Gee, listen to the whining about the Russians stealing the election from Hillary.

That was an investigation by the CIA. I haven't read their report (have you?), but I'm not sure "whining" is the correct word. Not that I have much love for the CIA.

I think hearing that chatter on an aircraft should result in a lifetime ban too.

Interesting what you consider "chatter". As mentioned before, I'm happy to come to your workplace and "chatter" to you, and we'll see how you like it.

[CpnCrunch]

2.) Your understanding of political correctness appears to be limited. One of the core values of political correctness is the suppression of that which is not politically correct.

And yet there was nothing political about this situation. He was banned for his abusive behaviour, not for his political views. Some people like you are trying to twist this into a political thing, but it simply isn't. You seem to think that he should be allowed to do what he wants, because of his political views. That's like saying that muslims should be allowed to have Sharia law in the USA, as anything else would curtain their religious freedom. THAT is political correctness.

Sometimes you need to call it like it is, rather than being politically correct. This guy was an abusive asshole, end of story.

[Rookie50]

I just find it interesting the hue and cry from the left when Trump mused about only accepting a "fair" election. The Media and left were all over that as "Undemocratic, UnAmerican" behaviour.

Now look who continues to "challenge" the election, and the media is all for it. Recounts, opinion pieces, Russians, Martians. Get over it.

I'm not a Trump fan -- I'm worried about where we are going -- certainly not a HRC fan.

It's the hypocrisy I can't stand. Brutal lack of integrity from the Left and their paid off media cronies.

[Rookie50]

2.) Your understanding of political correctness appears to be limited. One of the core values of political correctness is the suppression of that which is not politically correct.

And yet there was nothing political about this situation. He was banned for his abusive behaviour, not for his political views. Some people like you are trying to twist this into a political thing, but it simply isn't. You seem to think that he should be allowed to do what he wants, because of his political views. That's like saying that muslims should be allowed to have Sharia law in the USA, as anything else would curtain their religious freedom. THAT is political correctness.

Sometimes you need to call it like it is, rather than being politically correct. This guy was an abusive asshole, end of story.

Ridiculous.


I've read many times of drunken British soccer hooligans trashing aircraft. Others, Threats to cabin crew. So bad plane was diverted. How many times have we read that? People trying to open the door mid flight.

Never a ban to any of those idiots, at least that was publicized. Cause there was no gain in it!

This guy shot his mouth off but wasn't a threat to anyone, so much so the cabin crew didn't even know about until after. No diversion. No cops meeting the plane. And he gets a lifetime ban? Very publicly I might add.

I'm not in the industry, but I'm guessing airline captains, you would have a tough time explaining an emergency diversion based on that video alone. No diversion but a ban? Bizzare.

Purely political motivations. We're Delta, we care, (and we support Hillary, to appeal to her voters) What a load of crap. Great free publicity. No lose for Delta's PR image. And a refund to every other pax? When have you heard of That happening for Anything that happens on an aircraft?

Maybe that's what ticks me about this. Delta has a massive PR dept, like any huge corporation. Loads of Anti - Trump emotion out there (heck I'm no great defender). I'm guessing they calculated - and reacted to the page views of that video and criticism -- that banning this guy and refunding everyone's fare would generate a ton of free positive publicity. Hey, no skin off my nose.

I'm not defending any idiot on any aircraft. But let's get real here on what happened. And it nothing to do with safety, or giving a rip about respect for their crew or passengers.

All about their "image".

[CpnCrunch]

Perhaps Delta felt embarrassed because nothing was done with him during the flight, so they felt they needed to punish him so that they didn't look like the bad guys.

I just don't like the automatic assumption that this was political in nature, and the attempt to downplay his behaviour as "chatter". f*** politics, let's kill this thread and start talking about aviation.