How far must the gap be between knowing what you get with a 200 hour pilot and thinking that "personality profiling" has any more importance in hiring than clean underwear?
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What the...?
Ok, is this an example of one too many weekend HR cum SCRUM training sessions staggering into an ad for an entry level pilot, working alone, in the middle of nowhere?
How far must the gap be between knowing what you get with a 200 hour pilot and thinking that "personality profiling" has any more importance in hiring than clean underwear?
How far must the gap be between knowing what you get with a 200 hour pilot and thinking that "personality profiling" has any more importance in hiring than clean underwear?
Good judgment comes from experience. Experience often comes from bad judgment.
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The Hammer
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The joys of a pilot shortage. Operators might be trying to reduce the chance of hiring a "dud" for the position which at some places is an "apprenticeship" position not to mention just trying to avoid hiring a problem employee.
Aviation definitely has its share of "oddballs" and I'm only referring to the ones who made a career of it. Who knows about the many who spent the money and never got that 1st job. There was a time...
Aviation definitely has its share of "oddballs" and I'm only referring to the ones who made a career of it. Who knows about the many who spent the money and never got that 1st job. There was a time...
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goingnowherefast
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The trick is to hire people that make a good fit with the company. Call it "personality profiling" or whatever you want, but it's basically an interview. After spending 14 hours with the guy, is the captain going to want to kill him? Is he going to say stupid things to the passengers and cause a customer relations nightmare?
I'm glad they stated that the candidate needs 200 hrs though. It will eliminate all the CPL holders with only 100 hours total time.
I'm glad they stated that the candidate needs 200 hrs though. It will eliminate all the CPL holders with only 100 hours total time.
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I don't see the big fuss really. A company that wants to check out the personality of a employee? Oh boy... The horror!
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
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Cat Driver
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How do they do the personality profile of an applicant?
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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I wish there was more personality profiling. If the rest of the guys working there think you're a f@cking idiot, then at the end of your probation we can mutually agree that it's "not a good fit" and everyone can happily part ways. In this era of credntialism, it seems having boxes ticked can often be more valued than actually being able to do your damn job well and being a good member of the team.
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Cat Driver
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So can someone explain to me how they do personality profiling?
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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goingnowherefast
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That is a small part of it. There are a series of tests, like exams.goingnowherefast wrote:In an interview.
I've done them several times. Last one was for a Canadian carrier. Over two days.
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They look at your avatar. And then they look for any evidence on the web that you ever supported Trump.Cat Driver wrote:So can someone explain to me how they do personality profiling?
Good judgment comes from experience. Experience often comes from bad judgment.
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Cat Driver
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I would sure like to fly for him. 
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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Personality Profiling? Looks like madams Briggs and Meyers strike again! Well, at least we can see, as I have tried to tell you nonbelievers, that Mr. Jay Dilley, lately of Hawk Air, has landed on his feet!
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lucien_kane
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It's from the Free Job Ads current page Aerial Inspection Pilot.lucien_kane wrote:Where is the extract from??
Good judgment comes from experience. Experience often comes from bad judgment.
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Maybe it should be more like "Don't have to be crazy, but sure as hell helps"?
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Nice thing about living in Canada, coupled with a pilot shortage, those who don't want to be profiled, don't have to apply. 
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Cat Driver wrote:So can someone explain to me how they do personality profiling?
Ask him if they've killed anyone
See if he wears women's clothes to the interview
Check if he has a half decent sense of humour, in -40 weather. when you are a grunt on the ramp, you need it
Having a normal conversation with him to see if he's a decent relatable, patient person who will be a good addition to the face of the company, preferably people with a contagious smile
There's many ways to do this. I've had many duds sitting on the other seat over the years, some people are shitty pilots but absolutely fantastic people, some are great pilots with shitty personalities.
What I've learnt, you can always teach a person how to fly. But you can't teach a person to not be a douche.
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Would that be viewed negatively?MrTurbine wrote:Cat Driver wrote:So can someone explain to me how they do personality profiling?
Ask him if they've killed anyone
See if he wears women's clothes to the interview
Good judgment comes from experience. Experience often comes from bad judgment.
