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Re: Jazz Hatters

#51 Post by HansDietrich » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:38 am

IamnoMaverick:

That's pretty arrogant of you sir. First of all, it was a CAPTAIN that said that, not an F/O. Most First Officers I know at Jazz love the uniform and finally "looking the part".
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Re: Jazz Hatters

#52 Post by iamnomaverick » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:43 am

Air.Field wrote:I think most FOs feel they aren't being paid professionally, and that would be correct. Does that mean they don't take flying the plane professionally? Especially over a hat? Have you seen anyone fly unprofessionally? Or refuse to put the gear down? I think you are obviously reaching for something that is not there.
If you think the guy next to you deserves to get paid 36k a year, that's your opinion, easy to think that when you comfortably make over 100k more. The majority think it's too low, again everyone is entitled to their opinion. That's great you love your job, but the job isn't for everyone. For most now a days it's the stepping stone to AC. If someone wants to be non compliant with uniform, sop or whatever, then talk to them, if no response send the CP a email and let mgmt deal with it. But to think anyone at Jazz is unprofessional... I certainly haven't seen it, and would fly on a Jazz crewed plane any day.
I have never encountered an occasion were I thought the guy next to me was unprofessional nor do I think people who don't want to wear their hats are unprofessional. My comments was in reply to the fact that someone thinks they shouldn't have to wear their hat because they don't get paid enough to do it. The gear scenario was clearly hypothetical but it was to demonstrate a point that just because you don't think you get paid enough doesn't mean you shouldn't do your job. Did you interview for the job and were told how much they will be earning? if not, Did youask before accepting that Letter of Offer?

I don't think I have ever asked anyone about their hat or why they are not wearing it, I am not the hat police, nor do I think it makes a difference when it comes to operating an airplane... My problem was with the litter of the response "When they pay me "professionally" I will wear a professional hat".
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Re: Jazz Hatters

#53 Post by iamnomaverick » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:49 am

HansDietrich wrote:IamnoMaverick:

That's pretty arrogant of you sir. First of all, it was a CAPTAIN that said that, not an F/O. Most First Officers I know at Jazz love the uniform and finally "looking the part".
I don't agree at all. perhaps you should have clarified cause I have never encountered or seen an instants were the FO was questioning their captain about their hat so I call BS on your entire story... So you are saying Captains at Jazz are not being paid professionally now?

From all your previous posts I understand that you are butt hurt over flying the classic but really that is no reason to sewer your co-workers or the company that puts food on the table.
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#54 Post by PostmasterGeneral » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:49 am

Exactly as Hans pointed out, probably 90% of the guys I know that take issue with the new uniform or the hat are senior captains. Junior captains, and FO's, generally tend to wear the entire uniform and wear is nicely. There are some old guys who still wear the old uniform because "when the company gives me pants with pockets, I'll wear them."

What kind of example are you setting for the new guys? That it's ok to wear whatever you want and shave sometimes? And in my experience, it's been those captains who preach professionalism, that never practice it, and do things way outside the SOP's because "that's how I've always done it." One guy in particular had absolutely no idea what calls to make in a go around ffs! And he's been at Jazz for over a decade!

But hey, preach to others who may leave the hat on the hook when they run in to grab a coffee.

For the record, I wear my uniform with pride.
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Re: Jazz Hatters

#55 Post by iamnomaverick » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:55 am

PostmasterGeneral wrote:Exactly as Hans pointed out, probably 90% of the guys I know that take issue with the new uniform or the hat are senior captains. Junior captains, and FO's, generally tend to wear the entire uniform and wear is nicely. There are some old guys who still wear the old uniform because "when the company gives me pants with pockets, I'll wear them."

What kind of example are you setting for the new guys? That it's ok to wear whatever you want and shave sometimes? And in my experience, it's been those captains who preach professionalism, that never practice it, and do things way outside the SOP's because "that's how I've always done it." One guy in particular had absolutely no idea what calls to make in a go around ffs! And he's been at Jazz for over a decade!

But hey, preach to others who may leave the hat on the hook when they run in to grab a coffee.

For the record, I wear my uniform with pride.
I am glad you do wear it with pride and so do most people including myself. Not sure if your comments were directed at me.
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Re: Jazz Hatters

#56 Post by HansDietrich » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:15 pm

iamnomaverick wrote:
HansDietrich wrote:IamnoMaverick:

That's pretty arrogant of you sir. First of all, it was a CAPTAIN that said that, not an F/O. Most First Officers I know at Jazz love the uniform and finally "looking the part".
I don't agree at all. perhaps you should have clarified cause I have never encountered or seen an instants were the FO was questioning their captain about their hat so I call BS on your entire story... So you are saying Captains at Jazz are not being paid professionally now?

From all your previous posts I understand that you are butt hurt over flying the classic but really that is no reason to sewer your co-workers or the company that puts food on the table.

Go back and read my post:
I said: (quote)
"Best answer yet (I heard it in the Lounge at YYZ between two Jazz pilots)..."

It was you which (in your arrogance) automatically assumed it must have been an F/O. It was actually a captain speaking to another captain (probably his friend). You can call "BS" on my story all you want. Among the things I've heard in the crew room:

1. This uniforms sucks
2. This uniform has no pockets
3. I'm not even wearing those retarded pants. I bought my own at Mark's Wearhouse, because they have back pockets.
... and the list goes on.

So what if I'm "butt-hurt" about flying the Classic Dash? I paid my dues in the industry and now I want something more. Is that wrong? Eventually I'll get it. Till, then I'll come to work, wear my uniform (which I actually really really like, no bullshit here, including the hat) and last and most definitely not least:, fly that plane as I'm supposed to do it, by the book (to the best of my ability and knowledge), always strive for something better and offer the best service I can to our customers, because guess what? I am also a customer of AC (and Express)... and my family and my friends are also customers of Air Canada (and Express).

Get off your high horse and come down to the real world, where you'll realize that we're all in this together. Bitching a little here and there on some online forum is not the end of the world.

P.S. When's your time for retirement? (Just curious)
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#57 Post by Cat Driver » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:16 pm

And in my experience, it's been those captains who preach professionalism, that never practice it, and do things way outside the SOP's because "that's how I've always done it.
How many airplanes have these guys damaged or wrecked?
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Re: Jazz Hatters

#58 Post by iamnomaverick » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:38 pm

HansDietrich wrote:
iamnomaverick wrote:
HansDietrich wrote:IamnoMaverick:

That's pretty arrogant of you sir. First of all, it was a CAPTAIN that said that, not an F/O. Most First Officers I know at Jazz love the uniform and finally "looking the part".
I don't agree at all. perhaps you should have clarified cause I have never encountered or seen an instants were the FO was questioning their captain about their hat so I call BS on your entire story... So you are saying Captains at Jazz are not being paid professionally now?

From all your previous posts I understand that you are butt hurt over flying the classic but really that is no reason to sewer your co-workers or the company that puts food on the table.

Go back and read my post:
I said: (quote)
"Best answer yet (I heard it in the Lounge at YYZ between two Jazz pilots)..."

It was you which (in your arrogance) automatically assumed it must have been an F/O. It was actually a captain speaking to another captain (probably his friend). You can call "BS" on my story all you want. Among the things I've heard in the crew room:

1. This uniforms sucks
2. This uniform has no pockets
3. I'm not even wearing those retarded pants. I bought my own at Mark's Wearhouse, because they have back pockets.
... and the list goes on.

So what if I'm "butt-hurt" about flying the Classic Dash? I paid my dues in the industry and now I want something more. Is that wrong? Eventually I'll get it. Till, then I'll come to work, wear my uniform (which I actually really really like, no bullshit here, including the hat) and last and most definitely not least:, fly that plane as I'm supposed to do it, by the book (to the best of my ability and knowledge), always strive for something better and offer the best service I can to our customers, because guess what? I am also a customer of AC (and Express)... and my family and my friends are also customers of Air Canada (and Express).

Get off your high horse and come down to the real world, where you'll realize that we're all in this together. Bitching a little here and there on some online forum is not the end of the world.

P.S. When's your time for retirement? (Just curious)
HansDietRich, I am not blaming you personally for what someone else may or may not have said. You got defensive and called me "arogant" for "assuming" when your story could easily be assumed to be a conversation between a captain and an FO. Again, my issue is the answer not the act. It is one thing for someone to say they don't want to wear their hat because they don't like it, don't think it is a good look but to blame it on pay that is absurd.

Just seems like a lot of people have a lot of negative things to say. I remember when I interviewed at Jazz everything was laid out, I did my homework and made a calculated move keeping in mind that I may never go to AC and that I may stay in the regional level (which is my niche). I too didn't get the type I was hoping for initially but the company has always held its end of the contact I signed.

Also, not retiring anytime soon.
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Re: Jazz Hatters

#59 Post by HansDietrich » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:44 pm

I tend to get defensive when people call me "butt-hurt", especially after putting my time in and paying my dues. Did I know about Jazz and what it was offering? Yes. I knew the pay, I knew schedule, I knew the routes, I knew the aircraft. What I didn't know is about the 4 year freeze and the fact that it's very hard to get a weekend off (1 out of 4 would be sufficient for me). These are the only things I didn't expect.

Anyway, I worked way too hard to get to Jazz and I'm celebrating my time here, but I'm not going to hide or deny the fact that I want something else (aircraft wise)... and it'll come... If not next year, the next... and if not... there's WJ, Sky Regional, Transat, Encore, Porter, Corporate, etc. Nobody's holding a gun to my head to stay here; and why should they? It's a free world, ain't it?
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#60 Post by iamnomaverick » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:06 pm

HansDietrich wrote:I tend to get defensive when people call me "butt-hurt", especially after putting my time in and paying my dues. Did I know about Jazz and what it was offering? Yes. I knew the pay, I knew schedule, I knew the routes, I knew the aircraft. What I didn't know is about the 4 year freeze and the fact that it's very hard to get a weekend off (1 out of 4 would be sufficient for me). These are the only things I didn't expect.

Anyway, I worked way too hard to get to Jazz and I'm celebrating my time here, but I'm not going to hide or deny the fact that I want something else (aircraft wise)... and it'll come... If not next year, the next... and if not... there's WJ, Sky Regional, Transat, Encore, Porter, Corporate, etc. Nobody's holding a gun to my head to stay here; and why should they? It's a free world, ain't it?
HansdietRich,

Up until the point you called me "arrogant" for assuming the convo was between a Captain and an FO I never made any comments about you, just regarding the story. You were just the guy who overheard said conversation. However you seemed to be interested in attacking me personally for some reason.

I am on no high horse, I just don't exactly enjoy hearing people complaining about the pay here. I am not saying they shouldn't be paid more (contrary but that is not in my hands), however, they agreed and signed the contract so they better be prepared to follow it and stay professional while the opportunity they came here for comes their way. some of us are here for the long run so we don't need to hear it all the time.(This is in no way directed at you personally HansDietRich)

I wish you good luck in getting on the type you want or on your next move.
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Re: Jazz Hatters

#61 Post by iamnomaverick » Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:13 pm

PostmasterGeneral wrote:And in my experience, it's been those captains who preach professionalism, that never practice it, and do things way outside the SOP's because "that's how I've always done it." One guy in particular had absolutely no idea what calls to make in a go around ffs! And he's been at Jazz for over a decade!
PostmasterGeeral, If that story is true then said FO should have filed an SMS and dealt with it professionally, not by posting it on a avcanada.
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Re: Jazz Hatters

#62 Post by HansDietrich » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:23 pm

iamnomaverick wrote:
HansDietrich wrote:I tend to get defensive when people call me "butt-hurt", especially after putting my time in and paying my dues. Did I know about Jazz and what it was offering? Yes. I knew the pay, I knew schedule, I knew the routes, I knew the aircraft. What I didn't know is about the 4 year freeze and the fact that it's very hard to get a weekend off (1 out of 4 would be sufficient for me). These are the only things I didn't expect.

Anyway, I worked way too hard to get to Jazz and I'm celebrating my time here, but I'm not going to hide or deny the fact that I want something else (aircraft wise)... and it'll come... If not next year, the next... and if not... there's WJ, Sky Regional, Transat, Encore, Porter, Corporate, etc. Nobody's holding a gun to my head to stay here; and why should they? It's a free world, ain't it?
HansdietRich,

Up until the point you called me "arrogant" for assuming the convo was between a Captain and an FO I never made any comments about you, just regarding the story. You were just the guy who overheard said conversation. However you seemed to be interested in attacking me personally for some reason.

I am on no high horse, I just don't exactly enjoy hearing people complaining about the pay here. I am not saying they shouldn't be paid more (contrary but that is not in my hands), however, they agreed and signed the contract so they better be prepared to follow it and stay professional while the opportunity they came here for comes their way. some of us are here for the long run so we don't need to hear it all the time.(This is in no way directed at you personally HansDietRich)

I wish you good luck in getting on the type you want or on your next move.
I apologize for my rudeness. Believe me, I want every one of the pilots at Jazz to have the best careers and lifestyle they can possibly get.

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Re: Jazz Hatters

#63 Post by PostmasterGeneral » Mon Sep 11, 2017 2:56 pm

iamnomaverick wrote:
PostmasterGeneral wrote:And in my experience, it's been those captains who preach professionalism, that never practice it, and do things way outside the SOP's because "that's how I've always done it." One guy in particular had absolutely no idea what calls to make in a go around ffs! And he's been at Jazz for over a decade!
PostmasterGeeral, If that story is true then said FO should have filed an SMS and dealt with it professionally, not by posting it on a avcanada.
I did.
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#64 Post by Cat Driver » Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:34 pm

I did.
What was the result of your filing?
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#65 Post by Air.Field » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:46 pm

Thanks for clarifying in response to my post iamnomaverick :goodman:
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#66 Post by seniorpumpkin » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:18 pm

I had the privilege of wearing an oxygen mask with a beard while flying a corporate machine. It fit just fine, the amount of force the back straps apply to your head combined with the pressure from O2 being dispensed is probably sufficient for deep sea diving.
I think if a beard is kept neatly trimmed and the owner is capable of growing one, then it can portray a very professional pilot. Definitely don't want to see a duck dynasty facial travesty on anyone I work with.
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#67 Post by short bus » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:29 pm

Hey iamnomaverick, just so ya know, you're "that" guy
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#68 Post by confusedalot » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:48 pm

HansDietrich wrote:
iamnomaverick wrote:
HansDietrich wrote:IamnoMaverick:

That's pretty arrogant of you sir. First of all, it was a CAPTAIN that said that, not an F/O. Most First Officers I know at Jazz love the uniform and finally "looking the part".
I don't agree at all. perhaps you should have clarified cause I have never encountered or seen an instants were the FO was questioning their captain about their hat so I call BS on your entire story... So you are saying Captains at Jazz are not being paid professionally now?

From all your previous posts I understand that you are butt hurt over flying the classic but really that is no reason to sewer your co-workers or the company that puts food on the table.

Go back and read my post:
I said: (quote)
"Best answer yet (I heard it in the Lounge at YYZ between two Jazz pilots)..."

It was you which (in your arrogance) automatically assumed it must have been an F/O. It was actually a captain speaking to another captain (probably his friend). You can call "BS" on my story all you want. Among the things I've heard in the crew room:

1. This uniforms sucks
2. This uniform has no pockets
3. I'm not even wearing those retarded pants. I bought my own at Mark's Wearhouse, because they have back pockets.
... and the list goes on.

So what if I'm "butt-hurt" about flying the Classic Dash? I paid my dues in the industry and now I want something more. Is that wrong? Eventually I'll get it. Till, then I'll come to work, wear my uniform (which I actually really really like, no bullshit here, including the hat) and last and most definitely not least:, fly that plane as I'm supposed to do it, by the book (to the best of my ability and knowledge), always strive for something better and offer the best service I can to our customers, because guess what? I am also a customer of AC (and Express)... and my family and my friends are also customers of Air Canada (and Express).

Get off your high horse and come down to the real world, where you'll realize that we're all in this together. Bitching a little here and there on some online forum is not the end of the world.

P.S. When's your time for retirement? (Just curious)
No pockets anywhere on the uniform? I would take issue with that as well. Call me old fashioned, not quite ready to equip myself with a man purse. :lol:

I really really hope that I misread the entire subject and that there is at least one pocket somewhere on the uniform to at least put a wallet and car keys and spare change.
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#69 Post by KenoraPilot » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:01 pm

Air.Field wrote:I think most FOs feel they aren't being paid professionally, and that would be correct. Does that mean you're not going to fly with any FO? Does that mean they don't take flying the plane professionally? Especially over a hat? Have you seen anyone fly unprofessionally? Or refuse to put the gear down? I think you are obviously reaching for something that is not there.
If you think the guy next to you deserves to get paid 36k a year, that's your opinion, easy to think that when you comfortably make over 100k more. The majority think it's too low, again everyone is entitled to their opinion. That's great you love your job, but the job isn't for everyone. For most now a days it's the stepping stone to AC. If someone wants to be non compliant with uniform, sop or whatever, then talk to them, if no response send the CP a email and let mgmt deal with it. But to think anyone at Jazz is unprofessional... I certainly haven't seen it, and would fly on a Jazz crewed plane any day.
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#70 Post by iamnomaverick » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:20 am

HansDietrich wrote:
iamnomaverick wrote:
HansDietrich wrote:I tend to get defensive when people call me "butt-hurt", especially after putting my time in and paying my dues. Did I know about Jazz and what it was offering? Yes. I knew the pay, I knew schedule, I knew the routes, I knew the aircraft. What I didn't know is about the 4 year freeze and the fact that it's very hard to get a weekend off (1 out of 4 would be sufficient for me). These are the only things I didn't expect.

Anyway, I worked way too hard to get to Jazz and I'm celebrating my time here, but I'm not going to hide or deny the fact that I want something else (aircraft wise)... and it'll come... If not next year, the next... and if not... there's WJ, Sky Regional, Transat, Encore, Porter, Corporate, etc. Nobody's holding a gun to my head to stay here; and why should they? It's a free world, ain't it?
HansdietRich,

Up until the point you called me "arrogant" for assuming the convo was between a Captain and an FO I never made any comments about you, just regarding the story. You were just the guy who overheard said conversation. However you seemed to be interested in attacking me personally for some reason.

I am on no high horse, I just don't exactly enjoy hearing people complaining about the pay here. I am not saying they shouldn't be paid more (contrary but that is not in my hands), however, they agreed and signed the contract so they better be prepared to follow it and stay professional while the opportunity they came here for comes their way. some of us are here for the long run so we don't need to hear it all the time.(This is in no way directed at you personally HansDietRich)

I wish you good luck in getting on the type you want or on your next move.
I apologize for my rudeness. Believe me, I want every one of the pilots at Jazz to have the best careers and lifestyle they can possibly get.

Cheers

Hans
No worries buddy, I believe you and know that things can get frustrating sometimes when you have worked hard for something but no getting the results you are looking for but you will eventually get where you want to be one way or another. We all do.

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#71 Post by iamnomaverick » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:21 am

Air.Field wrote:Thanks for clarifying in response to my post iamnomaverick :goodman:
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#72 Post by iamnomaverick » Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:30 am

short bus wrote:Hey iamnomaverick, just so ya know, you're "that" guy

Hardly.
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#73 Post by niss » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:17 pm

Interesting thread. For what it's worth I always fly wearing my hat. And only my hat. I like the feeling of cheap vinyl on my taint.

Also I'm disappointing in hearing people hate on my almost nipple length beard. How the @#$! else am I supposed to know when the Cherokee goes inverted?
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#74 Post by Skyhunter » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:40 pm

To wear the hat or not
Such a dilemma who would have thought
Not about safety, skill, or technique would we talk
No, only if you don't wear your hat should I walk?
Beards, their size, their shape, their length
Would somehow lend the arguments strength
Both sides would get madder and madder
Some would say, much like a hatter
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#75 Post by niss » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:58 pm

Somebody want to grab the mic he just dropped?
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