I’m wanting to get my private license.
One issue I’m having is my left arm is about 9” shorter than my right from a birth defect. I was wondering if it would be possible for me to sit in the left seat and use the cyclic with my left hand( which I have no problem with control of the aircraft) and use my right hand to control the right seat collective?
I’ll be training on a 206
Does anyone know if this would be allowed by transport canada?
I can’t see an issue with your left arm being shorter though, any of the types I’ve flown your left arm is rarely fully extended, could just be me though.
Best of luck and hopefully you can take a seat in some aircraft and see what works best!
The aircraft may need to be temporarily modified in some way, for example an interconnect between one control and another such as steering with hand controls rather than rudder and brakes in a fixed wing ..... in which case, there may be a licence restriction of some form to work within the variance of usual procedures to control the machine ...... I've done Practical Flight Tests on people with no fingers, shorter than average legs, paraplegics, people suffering from partial deafness, etc.
This video will give you an example of how the system can still accommodate people of different physiques.
Best of wishes in proceeding.
Flying the 206 in particular because my friend is letting me use it to train and would be the helicopter I would fly after I get licensed (if allowed).
Sure am having a blast right know though. No intentions of be a commercial pilot in my mid 40’s. I guess it’s just a midlife thing.
Thanks for the response
The Bell 206 Flight Manual does says the pilot "shall operate the helicopter from the right crew seat". So that would be a problem as solo flight is required training for a private licence. I believe that is for solo flight lateral balance and you may be able to get a waver by using ballast (weights) in the right seat.
As mentioned in earlier posts that Transport Canada (TC) would most likely require a practical test in the Bell 206. I suspect that TC would require a Class 2 or 1 Helicopter instructor to do a practical test.
Where to start: Find a helicopter flight instructor that will work with you and contact TC to see what can be done.
I agree if you need to modify controls it gets more difficult AND expensive.Heliian wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:50 pmYou'd have to talk to an ftu about it but if you can't use the standard controls then you would have to get a certified installation of control aids. To my knowledge, they don't exist and would be very costly to develop. There is a lot more to it than just being able to move the stick up and down. I don't think the ftu's will be able to help though as the entire training program is built around standard control setup and manipulation. Burt rutan tried to make a one handed does it all stick, didn't work out.
I do not think this poster needs to change any controls as it may work to switch what hand is on what control by changing seats.
As you know most helicopters are flown with the right hand on the cyclic and the left hand on the collective. But because his left arm is short he can not reach switches, radio controls, and work the collective very well. So if he switches seats and uses his short arm/hand (left arm/hand) on the cyclic and his average right arm/hand on the collective. Now he has a full length, average arm/had to reach all the switches and radio controls.
Steve Fonyo flew helicopters with one leg. https://vimeo.com/205970009
Aside from the fact that the original poster has access to a 206...
Another issue is that in this configuration the starter button is only on the pilot (left) collective. Albeit a highly unlikely event, I would guess that that Transport Canada would will expect the pilot to be able to attempt an in-air restart.
Once you pass the flight test, you can fly however you want but TC can be pretty picky with ANY modification to an aircraft. 9" isn't that much, in my helicopter, I can reach down probably 1/2 of that below the collective when it is fully down without difficulty. I wonder if the collective could be re-rigged so that it is sits a few inches higher than "normal"...A lower seat cushion may help as well.
The control rigging is set to a very specific position with very little (realistically no) room for adjustment.
It's not the act of simply flying that is the obstacle, it's the different emergency procedures that I think will be difficult to coordinate from that side.