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Boundary Bay $25 Landing Fee

#1 Post by ahramin » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:39 am

Alpha Aviation confirmed to me today that their upcoming "Transient" fee, which they say is a "Landing and handling fee", is in fact a simple landing fee and will apply regardless of whether any handling is needed. Supposedly waived if you buy a certain amount of fuel, the staff don't know how much that amount is though.

http://czbb.com/fees

For clarification you can call 1-866-946-2922

The airport manager is Marcello Garofalo
Office: 1.604.952.2537
Mobile: 1.604.369.5790
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Re: Boundary Bay $25 Landing Fee

#2 Post by Beefitarian » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:21 pm

That's great. Sure if I land there I pay $25, but it saves several cents a year income tax my wife would have had to pay if those airports were still run by the federal government. She doesn't even know how to fly, it's no fair to charge her and other Canadians those cents every year just to have airports, and save me $25 per landing is it?

Private enterprise and a user fee structure will save us all money, while making certain the airports stay competitive.

If an airport sucks or is too expensive they will go under, because everyone will just choose to go elsewhere and spend their landing fees at some other airport.

Don't worry though the government will still increase taxes, they will find something to spend the money on. Maybe a refund for Airlines that have to pay too much in landing fees to big airports.
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#3 Post by AirFrame » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:27 pm

I guess Rudy's will lose a lot of fly-in business. Nobody wants to buy overpriced gas just to eat there.
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Re: Boundary Bay $25 Landing Fee

#4 Post by ahramin » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:42 pm

I don't think the fuel at ZBB is particularly expensive. It's within a couple cents a litre of everywhere else in the lower mainland.

I see the fees page has been taken down. Perhaps they are going to make it a bit more informative.
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#5 Post by Beefitarian » Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:47 pm

I feel remorse now. Maybe, I should have just posted "Bummer!"
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Re: Boundary Bay $25 Landing Fee

#6 Post by AirFrame » Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:16 pm

ahramin wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2017 1:42 pm
I don't think the fuel at ZBB is particularly expensive. It's within a couple cents a litre of everywhere else in the lower mainland.
The rumour is that buying from the self-serve pump won't qualify... Have to buy from the fuel truck at $.20-.25 more per L.
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#7 Post by 7ECA » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:05 pm

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Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:16 pm
The rumour is that buying from the self-serve pump won't qualify... Have to buy from the fuel truck at $.20-.25 more per L.
Strange, seeing how the fuel is provided by Alpha in both cases. It's not the same as YPK, for example, where the trucks are owned/operated by the airport and the AvGas pump is operated by the Aeroclub.

If ZBB does start charging a fee, I'd imagine YPK is going to get even busier.
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Re: Boundary Bay $25 Landing Fee

#8 Post by ahramin » Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:24 pm

Don't be so quick to write off Boundary Bay. Alpha Aviation is already having trouble collecting on goofy invoices. If they move forward on implementing these landing fees, the Nanaimo method might prove successful again.
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#9 Post by AirFrame » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:02 pm

7ECA wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:05 pm
Strange, seeing how the fuel is provided by Alpha in both cases.
Not strange at all... Fuel from truck is always more expensive... They have to pay for the truck and driver somehow, costs that don't appear in a self-serve kiosk. Right now the question is moot, as the self serve pumps are "out of order" so the truck is the only option. Be prepared to wait, the last two people I heard from were #9 and #25 in line for service when they called (different days).
If ZBB does start charging a fee, I'd imagine YPK is going to get even busier.
Indeed. Also CAK3, CYNJ, CYXX. All good options who are happy to have you and won't charge you for the privilege.
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Re: Boundary Bay $25 Landing Fee

#10 Post by AirFrame » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:05 pm

ahramin wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2017 8:24 pm
Don't be so quick to write off Boundary Bay. Alpha Aviation is already having trouble collecting on goofy invoices. If they move forward on implementing these landing fees, the Nanaimo method might prove successful again.
I already wondered how they would track who flew in. Will someone be paid to sit there and listen to the radio and write down call signs? If so, I think my registration will be announced as CFFKU from now on... It's currently not assigned to anyone...
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Re: Boundary Bay $25 Landing Fee

#11 Post by JasonE » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:27 pm

https://copanational.org/en/2017/12/21/ ... y-airport/

Seems like it wasn't such a good idea!
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#12 Post by geneticistx » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:59 pm

CYCW has wicked pie.
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Re: Boundary Bay $25 Landing Fee

#13 Post by CpnCrunch » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:42 pm

geneticistx wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:59 pm
CYCW has wicked pie.
It moved to Langley earlier this year.
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#14 Post by geneticistx » Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:05 am

hmm.. there was still some amazing pie when i was there a few weeks ago.. YNJ here i come.
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Re: Boundary Bay $25 Landing Fee

#15 Post by CpnCrunch » Sat Dec 23, 2017 8:25 am

geneticistx wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 12:05 am
hmm.. there was still some amazing pie when i was there a few weeks ago.. YNJ here i come.
The owners of the pie shop had difficulties with the airport management, and they moved their pie shop to YNJ. Someone else set up shop in their old location at YCW, but it's not the same owners. There are lots of old threads here about it.
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#16 Post by AirFrame » Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:01 am

geneticistx wrote:
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hmm.. there was still some amazing pie when i was there a few weeks ago.
It all comes from Costco now.
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#17 Post by geneticistx » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:28 pm

i feel dumb, and now hungry.
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Re: Boundary Bay $25 Landing Fee

#18 Post by Beefitarian » Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:56 am

geneticistx wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:28 pm
i feel dumb, and now hungry.
I've been that way my whole life. It's not bad.
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#19 Post by privateer » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:46 pm

I think I'll just hop over to Delta Airpark then.
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Re: Boundary Bay $25 Landing Fee

#20 Post by Its What I do » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:49 am

Dear Boundary Bay Airport Tenants:

This communication is to inform you that that effective today, January 10th, 2018 Marcello Garofalo has resigned as General Manager with Alpha Aviation.

As of Monday, January 15th, 2018, Greg Fong will be returning as acting GM for the interim, so please direct any Airport related inquires to him at the following:

Greg Fong
Email: Greg.Fong@alpha-aviation.ca
Cell: 778-960-5238

Sincerely,


Lynda Lacko
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Maybe he quit becouse of this transient landing fee fiasco ?????
Isnt this the 5th airport manager to quit in the last 10 years???
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Re: Boundary Bay $25 Landing Fee

#21 Post by airway » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:44 am

Beefitarian wrote:
Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:21 pm

If an airport sucks or is too expensive they will go under, because everyone will just choose to go elsewhere and spend their landing fees at some other airport.
I know you were probably just referring to small airports Beefitarian, but It won't go under if it is a monopoly.
What other options do you have to land your large jet near Calgary?
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