how do you start a new logbook?

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how do you start a new logbook?

#1 Post by CanadianPilotQc » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:40 am

do you just have to put the previous hours and thats it ? thanks for the clarifications
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#2 Post by telex » Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:47 am

Last two entries from previous log to start the new log. Done.
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#3 Post by Beefitarian » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:10 am

Why would you repeat the last two entries?
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#4 Post by SuperchargedRS » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:13 am

Just carry the totals for everything over, I'd also scan and upload your old log into google drive or your iPad or some thing
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#5 Post by ThatArmyGuy » Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:16 pm

Identify it as logbook #2 or whatever it is and carry totals over. You can always right a remark in the first line stating this is Logbook #x and totals have been carried over.

It's your logbook, do as you wish.
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#6 Post by ben_davis » Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:18 pm

Carry over last two entries ( last two flight legs works for this ) to maintain an unbroken record.

Statement would be something like

“ Last two entries carried over from Journey Log ( or whatever your book is titled ) page xxxxxx. “
And just sign your name and license number.

Hours and cycles at bottom of page would be the ones carried forward from the last page of previous book
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#7 Post by helicopterray » Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:55 pm

One of the things I also do, as an AME, is record when the last inspection was carried out.
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#8 Post by Oldguystrtn2fly » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:20 pm

Are some talking about pilot log books and others talking about journey log books?
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#9 Post by Beefitarian » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:42 pm

Ah, that would explain the last two entries business.
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#10 Post by av8ts » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:24 pm

Oldguystrtn2fly wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:20 pm
Are some talking about pilot log books and others talking about journey log books?
Yes. The original question didn’t specify so 2 different conversations going on
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#11 Post by Heliian » Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:55 pm

Just retain the old one and start a new one with the time carried over. You can make it as pretty or as basic as you want.

I know some guys who don't even record anymore as they can't be bothered to start a new book, so, you'd be one up on them..
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#12 Post by AirFrame » Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:50 am

Oldguystrtn2fly wrote:
Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:20 pm
Are some talking about pilot log books and others talking about journey log books?
Probably, but it still doesn't explain the "last two entries" thing. The totals from the previous book are really all you need. For an aircraft log, an entry listing any outstanding items or last significant items (annual, oil change, etc.) would probably make sense.
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Re: how do you start a new logbook?

#13 Post by 455tt » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:52 am

To bring in a new volume of a technical record, in the olden days something like 10 years ago or so, you carried over the last 2 entries from the old volume to the new one. The protocol we follow currently as per CARs 605.93 (4) is to carry over whatever is necessary so as to maintain an "unbroken chronological record" as below. It's funny how old requirements can linger on in the common vernacular.

605.93 (1) Every person who makes an entry in a technical record shall

(a) make the entry accurately, legibly and in a permanent manner;

(b) enter the person’s name and signature or employee identifier or, where the record is kept as electronic data, enter the person’s user code or an equivalent security designation; and

(c) date the entry.

(2) Where the owner of an aircraft keeps the technical records for the aircraft as electronic data, the owner shall ensure that the electronic data system that is used complies with section 103.04 and the Aircraft Equipment and Maintenance Standards.

(3) The owner of an aircraft shall ensure that all of the necessary measures are taken to protect the technical records for the aircraft from damage and loss.

(4) Every person who brings into use a new volume of an existing technical record shall make the entries relating to the preceding volume that are necessary to ensure that an unbroken chronological record is maintained.

(5) Subject to subsection (6), where a person alters an entry on a technical record for the purpose of correcting the entry, the person shall do so by striking out the incorrect entry in such a manner that the underlying information remains legible, and inserting the correct entry together with

(a) the date of the alteration;

(b) the reason for the alteration, if it is necessary to clarify why the alteration was made; and

(c) the person’s name and signature or employee identifier or, where the record is kept as electronic data, the person’s user code or equivalent security designation.

(6) Where a correction referred to in subsection (5) is being made to a technical record that is maintained as electronic data, the correction shall be made in a manner that does not render the original data inaccessible.
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#14 Post by AirFrame » Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:13 am

(4) Every person who brings into use a new volume of an existing technical record shall make the entries relating to the preceding volume that are necessary to ensure that an unbroken chronological record is maintained.
This seems to be the relevant entry. But it says an *unbroken* chronological record, not an *overlapping* chronological record. So bring forward the totals, make an entry listing the last date or hobbs for relevant events, but there's no need to duplicate entries from the previous log.
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