Unserviceable Equipment C172

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Re: Unserviceable Equipment C172

#26 Post by photofly » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:54 pm

I can’t get my head around why lights would be required if you have a G1000 but not if you have steam gauges. Same for the 182. And that document doesn’t help.
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Re: Unserviceable Equipment C172

#27 Post by digits_ » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:59 pm

photofly wrote:
Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:54 pm
I can’t get my head around why lights would be required if you have a G1000 but not if you have steam gauges. Same for the 182. And that document doesn’t help.
It's to warn other pilots that the G1000 pilot is probably not looking outside but playing with all the toys in the cockpit :mrgreen:
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Re: Unserviceable Equipment C172

#28 Post by torquey401 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:06 pm

Something to think about. What sections of a POH are specifically "FAA APPROVED"?

Section 2 (Limitations) and 9 (Supplements)
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Re: Unserviceable Equipment C172

#29 Post by photofly » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:26 pm

Is that correct? Limitations in section 2 of a POH are mandatory, but when it comes to an Approved Flight Manual, such as the newer 172’s including the one under discussion have, I thought the whole manual is approved, hence the name.
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Re: Unserviceable Equipment C172

#30 Post by photofly » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:26 pm

Is that correct? Limitations in section 2 of a POH are mandatory, but when it comes to an Approved Flight Manual, such as the newer 172’s including the one under discussion have, I thought the whole manual is approved, hence the name.
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Re: Unserviceable Equipment C172

#31 Post by torquey401 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:56 pm

CESSNA SECTION 2
MODEL 172S NAV III OPERATING LIMITATIONS
INTRODUCTION
Section 2 includes operating limitations, instrument markings, and
basic placards necessary for the safe operation of the airplane, its
engine, standard systems and standard equipment. The limitations
included in this section and in Section 9 have been approved by the
Federal Aviation Administration.
Observance of these operating
limitations is required by Federal Aviation Regulations.
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Re: Unserviceable Equipment C172

#32 Post by photofly » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:02 am

Those limitations are approved. I don’t interpret that as meaning that the FAA hasn’t approved the contents of the rest of the “Approved Flight Manual”, including the equipment list. The notification of which equipment is required doesn’t constitute a limitation.
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Re: Unserviceable Equipment C172

#33 Post by photofly » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:43 pm

Another disadvantage of having a G1000 Cessna: since the avionics are tied into the TCDS, your upgrade options are somewhere between 1 and 0. In the steam gauge Cessnas you could install any TSO'd avionics you like, for the next 100 years, with a dozen or so glass panel options if that's your fancy.

If you have the G1000 you had better pin your hopes on the Garmin G1000 NXi being offered as an upgrade by Cessna.
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Re: Unserviceable Equipment C172

#34 Post by CpnCrunch » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:45 pm

photofly wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:43 pm
Another disadvantage of having a G1000 Cessna: since the avionics are tied into the TCDS, your upgrade options are somewhere between 1 and 0. In the steam gauge Cessnas you could install any TSO'd avionics you like, for the next 100 years, with a dozen or so glass panel options if that's your fancy.

If you have the G1000 you had better pin your hopes on the Garmin G1000 NXi being offered as an upgrade by Cessna.
Slight topic drift: how much would a new 172 cost with a G5 and GFC 500 instead of the G1000 and GFC 700?
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