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AirCanuck
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Sector definition

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Hey guys, quick one for you.

Been studying through crew rest/proficiency rules and seeing the term sector used a bunch. It’s not a term we use in the Air Force. Getting various definitions online depending on country and transport Canada does not define it. Is it just a takeoff to landing ie a leg?

For example, after you’ve used a relief pilot and the crew has had a 20 hr duty day with max 14 hrs in the seat, rear shall be equal to previous flight duty and a max of 3 sectors may be completed. What are these sectors? And is the limit of 3 for the following duty day, or for that 20 hour day?

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Re: Sector definition

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AirCanuck wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:08 am Hey guys, quick one for you.

Been studying through crew rest/proficiency rules and seeing the term sector used a bunch. It’s not a term we use in the Air Force. Getting various definitions online depending on country and transport Canada does not define it. Is it just a takeoff to landing ie a leg?

For example, after you’ve used a relief pilot and the crew has had a 20 hr duty day with max 14 hrs in the seat, rear shall be equal to previous flight duty and a max of 3 sectors may be completed. What are these sectors? And is the limit of 3 for the following duty day, or for that 20 hour day?

Cheers
(3) Where a flight crew is augmented by the addition of at least one flight crew member, the division of duty and rest is balanced between the flight crew members and a flight relief facility is provided, flight duty time may be extended if:

(a) where a flight relief facility - seat is provided, the flight duty time may be extended to 17 consecutive hours, in which case the maximum flight deck duty time for any flight crew member shall be 12 hours;
(b) where a flight relief facility - bunk is provided, the flight duty time may be extended to 20 consecutive hours, in which case the maximum flight deck duty time for any flight crew member shall be 14 hours;
(c) the subsequent minimum rest period shall be at least equal to the length of the preceding flight duty time; and
(d) a maximum of 3 sectors may be completed.

To extend to these hours your maximum legs flown can only be 3. Or you'd have long haul jets doing 20 hour days with 6 stops.

So in this case the rules to extend duty are as follows:

1. 20 consecutive hours, in which case the maximum flight deck duty time for any flight crew member shall be 14 hours
and
3 legs max
and
If you were on duty for 20 hours you must have 20 hours rest afterwards


Keep in mind these are all subject to change within, hopefully, the next year, so studying all this, unless you're affected by it now, will only really go so far
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Re: Sector definition

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Ok, so a sector = a leg = one airport to the next.

Yeah, I need to know them now... writing my exams in a week and change. Once they change I guess I’ll re-learn. Oh well!

And gotcha, the max 3 sectors is the 20 hour day. Thank you.
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Re: Sector definition

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A "SECTOR" (for purposes of line indoctrination) is a flight composed of a take-off, departure, arrival and landing AND including at least a 50 NM enroute segment. In the case of a cruise relief pilot, a sector is considered to be only the 50 NM enroute segment of a flight.
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Re: Sector definition

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FL007 wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:11 am
AirCanuck wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:08 am Hey guys, quick one for you.

Been studying through crew rest/proficiency rules and seeing the term sector used a bunch. It’s not a term we use in the Air Force. Getting various definitions online depending on country and transport Canada does not define it. Is it just a takeoff to landing ie a leg?

For example, after you’ve used a relief pilot and the crew has had a 20 hr duty day with max 14 hrs in the seat, rear shall be equal to previous flight duty and a max of 3 sectors may be completed. What are these sectors? And is the limit of 3 for the following duty day, or for that 20 hour day?

Cheers
(3) Where a flight crew is augmented by the addition of at least one flight crew member, the division of duty and rest is balanced between the flight crew members and a flight relief facility is provided, flight duty time may be extended if:

(a) where a flight relief facility - seat is provided, the flight duty time may be extended to 17 consecutive hours, in which case the maximum flight deck duty time for any flight crew member shall be 12 hours;
(b) where a flight relief facility - bunk is provided, the flight duty time may be extended to 20 consecutive hours, in which case the maximum flight deck duty time for any flight crew member shall be 14 hours;
(c) the subsequent minimum rest period shall be at least equal to the length of the preceding flight duty time; and
(d) a maximum of 3 sectors may be completed.

To extend to these hours your maximum legs flown can only be 3. Or you'd have long haul jets doing 20 hour days with 6 stops.

So in this case the rules to extend duty are as follows:

1. 20 consecutive hours, in which case the maximum flight deck duty time for any flight crew member shall be 14 hours
and
3 legs max
and
If you were on duty for 20 hours you must have 20 hours rest afterwards


Keep in mind these are all subject to change within, hopefully, the next year, so studying all this, unless you're affected by it now, will only really go so far
There is the above painful answer or the simple answer
A sector is one leg or one flight.
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Re: Sector definition

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av8ts wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:56 pm
FL007 wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 6:11 am
AirCanuck wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:08 am Hey guys, quick one for you.

Been studying through crew rest/proficiency rules and seeing the term sector used a bunch. It’s not a term we use in the Air Force. Getting various definitions online depending on country and transport Canada does not define it. Is it just a takeoff to landing ie a leg?

For example, after you’ve used a relief pilot and the crew has had a 20 hr duty day with max 14 hrs in the seat, rear shall be equal to previous flight duty and a max of 3 sectors may be completed. What are these sectors? And is the limit of 3 for the following duty day, or for that 20 hour day?

Cheers
(3) Where a flight crew is augmented by the addition of at least one flight crew member, the division of duty and rest is balanced between the flight crew members and a flight relief facility is provided, flight duty time may be extended if:

(a) where a flight relief facility - seat is provided, the flight duty time may be extended to 17 consecutive hours, in which case the maximum flight deck duty time for any flight crew member shall be 12 hours;
(b) where a flight relief facility - bunk is provided, the flight duty time may be extended to 20 consecutive hours, in which case the maximum flight deck duty time for any flight crew member shall be 14 hours;
(c) the subsequent minimum rest period shall be at least equal to the length of the preceding flight duty time; and
(d) a maximum of 3 sectors may be completed.

To extend to these hours your maximum legs flown can only be 3. Or you'd have long haul jets doing 20 hour days with 6 stops.

So in this case the rules to extend duty are as follows:

1. 20 consecutive hours, in which case the maximum flight deck duty time for any flight crew member shall be 14 hours
and
3 legs max
and
If you were on duty for 20 hours you must have 20 hours rest afterwards


Keep in mind these are all subject to change within, hopefully, the next year, so studying all this, unless you're affected by it now, will only really go so far
There is the above painful answer or the simple answer
A sector is one leg or one flight.
Sorry about the painful answer but he also asked about crew rest being the night before or afterwards, not just what a sector was.

Also trying to break apart the rule, since this layout is similar to pretty well all other Tc regs.
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Re: Sector definition

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I appreciate the help guys this forum has been very patient with my questions :)
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