Danke!lownslow wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:10 pmSkip to the end for a summary of changes.schnitzel2k3 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:06 pm Someone who has way too much time on their hands should develop a flow chart for those regs.
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Danke!lownslow wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:10 pmSkip to the end for a summary of changes.schnitzel2k3 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:06 pm Someone who has way too much time on their hands should develop a flow chart for those regs.
This would help a lot though:nwopilot wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:48 am I really hope I am incorrectly interpreting these new regs!! Apparently Medevac operators are basically exempt from all the new regs and can continue to go for 14hrs!?!?!?!?! HAHAHAH that is just silly. Out of all of the jobs I have had, I was the most fatigued while operating on a 24hr on-call medevac schedule. Why are they exempt?!?! Just hire some more damn pilots!!!
You might still have to work 14 hours, but at least you'll know when you'll be able to sleep. Much better than that rolling duty day crap some operators use at the moment, or the 24/7 on reserve. Looks like day/night shift might become mandatory if you want 24 hour coverage.700.116 (1) An air operator shall provide a flight crew member, at the end of a flight duty period, with a rest period of 10 hours plus the travel time to and from the place where the rest period is taken.
(2) An air operator shall provide a flight crew member with advance notice of the member’s rest period and its duration.
Thats always been the case.
- it means they can't force you to work without a break.Redneck_pilot86 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:32 pm Some of these laws seem silly to me:'
"700.37 An air operator shall provide a flight crew member with not less than 15 minutes every 6 hours within a flight duty period to eat and drink."
It would appear the pilot is not obligated to take this time? Personally, I snack all day in cruise, and never go anywhere without a travel mug full of coffee. I have no need nor desire to take a mandatory 15 minute break.
"700.40 (1) An air operator shall provide a flight crew member with the following rest periods at the end of a flight duty period:
(a) if the flight duty period ends at home base,
(i) either 12 hours, or 11 hours plus the travel time to and from the place where the rest period is taken, or
(ii) if the air operator provides suitable accommodation, 10 hours in that suitable accommodation; "
There are lots of seasonal pilots who live in a camper at the float base for the summer. It would seem that the title to the trailer determines the required rest period in such a case?
In my case, I own a house trailer but lease ground from the company, do I need 12 hours off every day, or 10?
"15 Section 703.98 of the Regulations is amended by adding the following after subsection (3):
(4) An air operator shall have a fatigue management training program for its flight crew members that contains
(a) personal fatigue management strategies relating to
(i) sleep hygiene,
(ii) lifestyle, exercise and diet, and
(iii) the consumption of alcohol and drugs;"
From Wikipedia: "Sleep hygiene is the recommended behavioral and environmental practice that is intended to promote better quality sleep."
We now need a training program to teach pilots how to be an adult?!?!
There are some good things in here, but a lot of clarity is needed.
One of the goals of the new rules are to force the worst operators to treat their pilots in a humane manner. As an airline pilot you could have plenty of time to snack, but the guy flying a 206 single pilot 14 hours straight, afraid to lose his first job, might not have that time or luxury. So it is good that these new regulations make it mandatory to give pilots at least a 15 minute break every 6 hours. How can you even complain about that. You could work 12 hours with only a 15 minute break in the middle and that's too much of a break for youRedneck_pilot86 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:32 pm Some of these laws seem silly to me:'
"700.37 An air operator shall provide a flight crew member with not less than 15 minutes every 6 hours within a flight duty period to eat and drink."
It would appear the pilot is not obligated to take this time? Personally, I snack all day in cruise, and never go anywhere without a travel mug full of coffee. I have no need nor desire to take a mandatory 15 minute break.
Exactly, it's just ridiculous.I really hope I am incorrectly interpreting these new regs!! Apparently Medevac operators are basically exempt from all the new regs and can continue to go for 14hrs!?!?!?!?! HAHAHAH that is just silly. Out of all of the jobs I have had, I was the most fatigued while operating on a 24hr on-call medevac schedule. Why are they exempt?!?! Just hire some more damn pilots!!!
Then they should have made special rules for 703 or 704, not specific medevac rules. Which makes you wonder what is so special about medevac. Until you start thinking a bit deeper, and you realize who the patients/passengers are on board the medevac planes vs the fancy charter planes on 703 or 704 operations which have better rules...AuxBatOn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:28 am Don’t forget that the rules are meant to address operational risks to the general population (not to pilots/crew). That’s why 702 is less restrictive than 703 and 703 is less restrictive than 704 and 704 is less restrictive than 705. The exposure of the population is progressively greater from 702 to 705. The effects of a catastrophic accident in a Medevac operation are fairly minimal when compared to the same catastrophic accident in an Airline operation. Therefore, the probability of a catastrophic accident happenning can be higher in a 702 operation and can still have the same level of risk as a 705 operation where the probability is minimized through more restrictive rules.
nwopilot wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:48 am I really hope I am incorrectly interpreting these new regs!! Apparently Medevac operators are basically exempt from all the new regs and can continue to go for 14hrs!?!?!?!?! HAHAHAH that is just silly. Out of all of the jobs I have had, I was the most fatigued while operating on a 24hr on-call medevac schedule. Why are they exempt?!?! Just hire some more damn pilots!!!