Regional airline loses 1.5-million passenger contract with Air Canada, but firms deny safety concerns a factor

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Regional airline loses 1.5-million passenger contract with Air Canada, but firms deny safety concerns a factor

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Re: Regional airline loses 1.5-million passenger contract with Air Canada, but firms deny safety concerns a factor

Post by Outlaw58 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:38 pm

An internal Georgian memo posted on the Avcanada.ca website indicates that flight attendants, mechanics and other employees will also be able to move to either Jazz, Air Canada or Air Canada Rouge.

One poster on an Avcanada forum said Georgian employees, earning some of the lowest wages in the industry, had ironically “won the lottery,” even as their company lost its primary source of business.
Congrats Avcanada posters, you are quoted in the National post!!!

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Re: Regional airline loses 1.5-million passenger contract with Air Canada, but firms deny safety concerns a factor

Post by DanWEC » Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:32 pm

The company said it does not expect the loss of this single contract to negatively impact its long-term business growth. “We are very well positioned in the marketplace, with a 25 year track record of superior safety, operational, and financial performance.”
I have no words for any of this.
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Re: Regional airline loses 1.5-million passenger contract with Air Canada, but firms deny safety concerns a factor

Post by Boreas » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:15 pm

Why aren't any of you commenting on this article on the National Post website?

I figured you guys would be letting it rip. All there is is some dude trying to pump up his Chorus stock... Weak!
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Post by Meatservo » Fri Feb 08, 2019 1:24 am

Where can someone get a copy of this self-published book they're talking about? I'd like to give that a read.
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Re: Regional airline loses 1.5-million passenger contract with Air Canada, but firms deny safety concerns a factor

Post by Yycjetdriver » Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:34 am

DanWEC wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:32 pm
The company said it does not expect the loss of this single contract to negatively impact its long-term business growth. “We are very well positioned in the marketplace, with a 25 year track record of superior safety, operational, and financial performance.”
I have no words for any of this.
Also no words, are they crazy or dumb?
How are they possibly in a good position? Not that the RJ’s are gone, along with the YYZ 1900’s and soon YYC 1900’s will they even have any aircraft? Do they own the 1900’s and even if they do, one would guess they’re so beat/poorly maintained they’re probably worthless.
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Re: Regional airline loses 1.5-million passenger contract with Air Canada, but firms deny safety concerns a factor

Post by lownslow » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:18 am

I wonder if they’re shopping around their expertise to some of the big travel agencies?
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Post by Inverted2 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:31 am

Reminds me of Baghdad Bob. :mrgreen:
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Re: Regional airline loses 1.5-million passenger contract with Air Canada, but firms deny safety concerns a factor

Post by co-joe » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:16 am

So the GGN pilots form a union, and in response big red dumps GGN? Hate on GGN all you want (I'm there with you), but this feel like a loss for organized labour in aviation to me.
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Re: Regional airline loses 1.5-million passenger contract with Air Canada, but firms deny safety concerns a factor

Post by 47north » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:35 am

co-joe wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:16 am
So the GGN pilots form a union, and in response big red dumps GGN? Hate on GGN all you want (I'm there with you), but this feel like a loss for organized labour in aviation to me.
I don't know if that was a factor in the decision by AC to pull the flying. I would think not though with the flying being repatriated to Jazz, which is a longstanding unionized carrier with a mature contract and better working conditions than GGN could have hoped to get in their first contract.
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Re: Regional airline loses 1.5-million passenger contract with Air Canada, but firms deny safety concerns a factor

Post by BTD » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:59 am

co-joe wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:16 am
So the GGN pilots form a union, and in response big red dumps GGN? Hate on GGN all you want (I'm there with you), but this feel like a loss for organized labour in aviation to me.
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Post by Cessna 180 » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:49 pm

co-joe wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:16 am
So the GGN pilots form a union, and in response big red dumps GGN? Hate on GGN all you want (I'm there with you), but this feel like a loss for organized labour in aviation to me.
and gives the contract to a company that has been organized for basically its entirety? i doubt that's why.
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Post by altiplano » Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:43 am

I think this is everything to do with poor performance on the contract.
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Post by co-joe » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:29 pm

Cessna 180 wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:49 pm
co-joe wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:16 am
So the GGN pilots form a union, and in response big red dumps GGN? Hate on GGN all you want (I'm there with you), but this feel like a loss for organized labour in aviation to me.
and gives the contract to a company that has been organized for basically its entirety? i doubt that's why.
They had to give it somebody. It was going to be Jazz, or Sky. Must just be a coincidence then.
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Post by LegoMan » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:12 pm

So GGN is finished?
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Post by Inverted2 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:42 pm

The company is still in business for now, but before long they won't have any business as all the CPA flying has been terminated. Maybe they will have a plane or 2 for charters or cargo but that will likely be it. The 1900s are old and the RJ-100s are due for the smelter. The ads are still up I'm assuming because they are short staffed and no one would want to go there now to get a pink slip in a few months.
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Post by trey kule » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:11 pm

Well, I am optimistic about this. Maybe we can soon read a thread without a GGN on every post.
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Re: Regional airline loses 1.5-million passenger contract with Air Canada, but firms deny safety concerns a factor

Post by Told Card Writer » Sun Feb 24, 2019 5:21 am

The best news is the pilots will be able to move over to Jazz rather then unemployment. I wish them all the best in the transition.

As for GGN this was a long time coming. The company deserves it, nothing more needs to be said.
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Re: Regional airline loses 1.5-million passenger contract with Air Canada, but firms deny safety concerns a factor

Post by jt8d » Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:45 pm

Gosh finally! No more stupid massive red ads on avcanada soon enough...who the heck would de-value themselves so much so as a pilot to take those crap RJ wages anyway.. especially those taking the DEC spot.. just pathetic.. i understand everyone has different circumstances but come on.. quit aviation before you stoop that low.. you're worth more than that people! and shame on you avcanada for perpetuating these BS ads... mega sell out you could say...

ps.. you should really consider updating your website.. make a true general thread section that links to any recent posts... so your customers (yeah i'm a customer because you make money off me looking at stupid red ads) can have easy access the threads that have new posts.. no need to jump around section to section to stay informed on the latest and greatest posts.. you are in fact in the thread business.. so get with the times avcanada.. i should not have to check the flair.. check AC check..etc.. to see if new posts have been made.. keep them seperate sure but also have a NEW POSTS section that consolidates all the most active threads in one section.. that is all.
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Re: Regional airline loses 1.5-million passenger contract with Air Canada, but firms deny safety concerns a factor

Post by digits_ » Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:12 pm

jt8d wrote:
Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:45 pm


ps.. you should really consider updating your website.. make a true general thread section that links to any recent posts... so your customers (yeah i'm a customer because you make money off me looking at stupid red ads) can have easy access the threads that have new posts.. no need to jump around section to section to stay informed on the latest and greatest posts.. you are in fact in the thread business.. so get with the times avcanada.. i should not have to check the flair.. check AC check..etc.. to see if new posts have been made.. keep them seperate sure but also have a NEW POSTS section that consolidates all the most active threads in one section.. that is all.

They hid the link under "Quick links"
search.php?search_id=active_topics
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Post by jt8d » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:52 pm

Ahh thanks mate! Bookmarked...
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Post by fish4life » Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:43 pm

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