Airport Parking Ruled a Taxable Benefit

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Re: Airport Parking Ruled a Taxable Benefit

Post by Inverted2 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:34 am

Why was my post deleted by the cencors? Is this still Canada?
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Post by photofly » Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:14 am

A whole bunch of off-topic stuff was removed.
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Re: Airport Parking Ruled a Taxable Benefit

Post by Kejidog » Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:16 pm

What is funny to me is that we are so willing to throw people under the bus because “I don’t get free parking; and those that do get something I don’t” the great socialist race to the bottom. What is next? Pensions?
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Re: Airport Parking Ruled a Taxable Benefit

Post by confusedalot » Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:58 pm

My vote.......

Disgusting indeed.

These rules are made by public servants with, if not fantastic, but nevertheless very high salaries with hugely generous expense accounts. Said expense accounts equal a 40 hour minumum salary job. In a job that requires minimum effort.

And then they decide to screw people on parking.............

Yes, disgusting indeed.
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Re: Airport Parking Ruled a Taxable Benefit

Post by photofly » Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:00 am

The rules are made by politicians, and implemented by public servants.

That’s a really good example of deflecting the issue: criticizing public servants as privileged and overpaid, whcich, even if true, is irrelevant to whether parking should be a taxable benefit.

It’s not a personal thing, and it wouldn’t be more (or less) acceptable if public servants were underpaid and had no expense accounts.
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Re: Airport Parking Ruled a Taxable Benefit

Post by digits_ » Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:48 am

If I understand correctly, the politicians make the law, and the public servants interpret it and make more detailed rules about it.
The circular published earlier (https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency ... oyees.html) was written by the canadian tax revenue agency and is a way to convert the law into a manageable set of rules.

In that case, their salary and benefits do come into play a little bit. You could say it is hard for a public servant to be objective if they are going to be affected by their own rules.

Or put differently: if the tax agency was based at the airport, and the government provided free airport parking to the tax agency employees, I doubt the airport parking would be considered a taxable benefit by default.
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Re: Airport Parking Ruled a Taxable Benefit

Post by photofly » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:18 am

digits_ wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:48 am

Or put differently: if the tax agency was based at the airport, and the government provided free airport parking to the tax agency employees, I doubt the airport parking would be considered a taxable benefit by default.
Do you have any factual basis for your doubt? Can you point to some things that otherwise ought to be tax benefits but have been decided not to be, which benefit the officials making that determination? I think inferring that kind of self-interested graft is quite a reach. I think you would, too, in a more considered moment.

It's a really human reaction to try to discredit a decision that you don't like by accusing those making it of being on the take, or biased, or dishonest in some other kind of way.
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Re: Airport Parking Ruled a Taxable Benefit

Post by AuxBatOn » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:24 am

digits_ wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:48 am
If I understand correctly, the politicians make the law, and the public servants interpret it and make more detailed rules about it.
The circular published earlier (https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency ... oyees.html) was written by the canadian tax revenue agency and is a way to convert the law into a manageable set of rules.

In that case, their salary and benefits do come into play a little bit. You could say it is hard for a public servant to be objective if they are going to be affected by their own rules.

Or put differently: if the tax agency was based at the airport, and the government provided free airport parking to the tax agency employees, I doubt the airport parking would be considered a taxable benefit by default.
Government employees that are given free parking also have a taxable benefit on their T4 for an equivalent price they would have paid over the course of the year. This is a fact.
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Re: Airport Parking Ruled a Taxable Benefit

Post by digits_ » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:30 pm

photofly wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:18 am
digits_ wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:48 am

Or put differently: if the tax agency was based at the airport, and the government provided free airport parking to the tax agency employees, I doubt the airport parking would be considered a taxable benefit by default.
Do you have any factual basis for your doubt? Can you point to some things that otherwise ought to be tax benefits but have been decided not to be, which benefit the officials making that determination? I think inferring that kind of self-interested graft is quite a reach. I think you would, too, in a more considered moment.

It's a really human reaction to try to discredit a decision that you don't like by accusing those making it of being on the take, or biased, or dishonest in some other kind of way.
Oh yes, it is definitely a reach. Just wanted to point out that there could be scenarios where the salary and/or benefits of public servants could be of interest.

A positive example -a bit anekdotal- of this would be the integrity of the police force (also public servants in a way). I've been told that if you compare the incidents of corruption in the US vs Canadian police force, that there are more in the US (adjusted for population). The reason stated for this was that the canadian police is paid significantly more, with better benefits and pension. Canadian police officers would have to be, I quote, "very stupid" to accept bribes, as they would lose soo much more.

Just to indicate that the level of pay for public servants can be of importance.

But I admit, it is unlikely that it is a factor in this particular subject.
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Re: Airport Parking Ruled a Taxable Benefit

Post by confusedalot » Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:57 pm

photofly wrote:
Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:00 am
The rules are made by politicians, and implemented by public servants.

That’s a really good example of deflecting the issue: criticizing public servants as privileged and overpaid, whcich, even if true, is irrelevant to whether parking should be a taxable benefit.

It’s not a personal thing, and it wouldn’t be more (or less) acceptable if public servants were underpaid and had no expense accounts.
Nothing wrong with your point. Remember though, that politicians are in fact public servants.
They make the rules. They benefit from the rules.
Must we revisit our charming pm on a million dollar vacation to india, under the guise, ahem.....excuse.....of government business?
That mentality goes all the way down to all levels of the "service".
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