Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by tps8903 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 4:39 am

All newer Android phones have something called Priority Mode.

It allows you to choose what wakes you up while blocking the sound of everything else including Amber Alerts. On my phone the only thing that can and does wake me up is a call from Crew Sked and my wake up alarm.

You can choose which contacts will ring through.

You will have to put the phone face down. It still lights up when a call or Amber Alert comes through.
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by Dry Guy » Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:25 am

goldeneagle wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:07 pm

It’s that phone that still works when power is out and cell towers stop working
Cell towers still work when the power's out. They have generators.
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by JasonE » Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:10 pm

My Android is an older version that fortunately does not support these alerts :) My wife's phone had a setting which was hard to find that allowed me to turn off all of these pushed alerts.

I wouldn't mind keeping an eye open for an alert I received if it were to be in a non-obnoxious format. I don't need to be woken up at any hour of the night as I'm not going to be any help anyway if I am sleeping. However, just like flying and listening to 121.5 on my second radio I'd keep my eyes open on the highway. Unfortunately, I had to opt to disable these alerts altogether for the annoyance factor. As a member of CASARA - I choose to keep my phone on at night.
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by steve_10509 » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:27 pm

Am I the only one in all of Canada that went to settings, emergency alerts, amber alerts, silent? I still get the amber alerts, but my phone just vibrates. No nuclear siren. Steve confused by this whole issue.
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by DanWEC » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:34 pm

I've also put the notifications for them to silent on my S10. Easy peasy.
When I get up in the morning the first thing I see is the type of car and where they might be going. I'll keep an eye out. But there is literally zero point to me getting the info in the middle of the night because, since I'm asleep, I won't be looking out my window in my quiet Ottawa crescent taking down license plates. Just reality.
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by JasonE » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:43 pm

I think the settings are dependent on the version of Android your device runs. No "silent" on my wife's phone but I could turn them off completely.
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by goleafsgo » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:13 am

I have mine on silent but I still get them
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by A346Dude » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:16 am

Why am I forced to choose between possibly being woken up at night and thus working fatigued the next day, and being available for a family emergency call I could possibly do something about?

For those who think it is as simple as turning the alerts off... this thread wouldn’t be at 3 pages if it were that simple. You cannot turn the alerts off or selectively silence them, at least on some phones. That is the whole problem and why this system is so awful.
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by phillyfan » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:47 am

Get rid of your celphone and get a landline. People lived that way for a very long time. I know for a millennial its daunting just to imagine doing so, but "Flight Safety" depends on it!

These phones are far more dangerous in the hands of pilots who using them to listen to music and text while flying, then losing a few minutes of beauty sleep once or twice a month.
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by A346Dude » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:39 am

Thanks for the absurd “solution” but I have no use for a landline. I got rid of my telegram machine as well, years ago.

How about we solve the problem instead of coming up with ridiculous workarounds?
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by linecrew » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:36 pm

phillyfan wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:47 am
Get rid of your celphone and get a landline. People lived that way for a very long time. I know for a millennial its daunting just to imagine doing so, but "Flight Safety" depends on it!
Not anywhere near millennial age and (thankfully) got rid of my landline 15 years ago...I love generalizations.
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by GoinVertical » Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:38 pm

phillyfan wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:47 am
...dangerous in the hands of pilots who using them to listen to music while flying...
Jeez, hope you've never tuned ADF #2 to a local AM station and had a listen... surely you'd spiral into the ground being unable to recognize an engine failure because of that damn music.
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by phillyfan » Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:30 pm

Too bad. Being a millenial would have given you a reason for being such a whiny, drama queen.
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by Dry Guy » Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:54 pm

HEY PILLYFAN HOWS THE BEAV I CAN'T BELIEVE SOME OF THESE LAZY PILOTS. THE MORNING AFT,ER PROM NIGHT I WALKED DOWN TO THE DOCK ASKED FOR THE CHIEF PILOT, LOOKED HIM RIGHT IN THE EYE AND SAID “GIVE ME THE JOB” SHOOK HIS HAND AND THAT WAS THAT. BY THE TIME I WAS 19 HAD MYSELF A SEAT IN THE OTTER A COUPLE MOPARS A BOAT AND A HOUSE HOUSE I TELL YOU WHAT MELLENIALS NOWADAYS COMPLAIN TOO MUCH. SAY HI TO THE OLD BALL AND CHAIN
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by flying4dollars » Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:27 am

It's probably easy to say that if it was your kid, you wouldn't want to wake up half the province to let them know, until it is your kid.

I don't mind the alert though, I've endured worse things in life. I do notice it's a constant thing in Ontario, and almost rarely happens in the west where I reside so I haven't got any issues. That being said I can see why it can be a little overwhelming for some, but there are ways, as people mentioned here (manipulating your notifications, if possible, is the most viable one it seems).
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by JasonE » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:28 pm

On the bright side, no one spams my fax machine anymore :)
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by linecrew » Fri Aug 02, 2019 6:29 am

phillyfan wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:30 pm
Too bad. Being a millenial would have given you a reason for being such a whiny, drama queen.
Pot-kettle. You come across as same.
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by mbav8r » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:39 am

https://dailyhive.com/toronto/turn-off- ... phone-2019
I missed a page of this thread but in case it wasn’t brought up, there is a way for iPhone users to disable the alerts, sort of, you disable LTE and use 3G, the alerts won’t come through but your phone still works.
I haven’t tried it but here it is just the same.
For what it’s worth, I just look at my phone, realize there’s nothing I can do and go back to sleep, usually after a trip to the bathroom, yes I’m that old!
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by Daniel Cooper » Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:06 am

So who got woken up by the Nuclear alert? Seems like it was just sent in error.
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by lownslow » Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:12 am

Daniel Cooper wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:06 am
So who got woken up by the Nuclear alert? Seems like it was just sent in error.
I think if I was about to be in big trouble for a near nuclear disaster down in sector 7G that I too would try to play the warning off as an error.
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by Victory » Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:27 am

I would think that too if the people running this emergency alert system weren't so incompetent.
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by digits_ » Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:32 am

And with every message sent in error, the effectiveness of the actual system reduces drastically.
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by valleyboy » Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:43 am

The concept is great but the system is not. In my case there are just too many irrelevant alerts to the point of being ignored. This was the highest priority alert, prezidential, but living 1800 km from the source still is just useless information and not an immediate treat. I would much prefer to get the details via the news than roll over and turn off my phone. They need to fine tune the system so people don't start to ignore the alerts or as I have done for now is disable the app, not just turn off the warnings which can be overridden but actually remove it. They need to select appropriate areas not just a blind open transmission.
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by altiplano » Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:56 am

Turn airplane mode on your phone at night.
Then wiifi back on if you need that...

Or if you need to be able to receive calls, just turn the data off on your phone at night.

Done.
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Re: Are Amber Alerts affecting your flight safety?

Post by Jean-Pierre » Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:22 am

I do not think the alert is sent over "data".
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