Jazz to launch pay for type rating program

[Braun]

Honest question, are there any good very low hour pilots or do you feel that you are always « babysitting »?

[Inverted2]

What a mistake that is...

We need a shortage of guys with ATPL’s to drive wages up in the industry.

The company will just hire DEC and/or use the clause in the contract that allows the company to force FO's that have ATPL's into CA seats (with no choice on base and type). Helping out our members attain their ATPL's is the mandate of ALPA. If you think a shortage of ATPL's will force up wages.......you haven't been paying attention

Sorry, but I have to call bullshit. Encore is having a hard enough time attracting DECs, that’s exactly what’s needed at Jazz too. The PICUS program at jazz has always been a joke, just surprised that the union is continuing to make it one of their “top priorities” when it a shortage of qualified captains would actually be a benefit for us all.

Because when management says jump our union says how high?

[Rowdy]

The expansion of the PICUS program is a hard sell for me. It solely benefits the company if they don't have to pay LTC's to move their low time, NON ATPL pilots into the left seat or help them off to AC. I'm also heavily against any P2F scheme like the jazz approach. I'm also not a fan of the pathways program.

KP, do you know if there is going to be a pay incentive for the captains who agree to doing PICUS?

[vermont]

The expansion of the PICUS program is a hard sell for me. It solely benefits the company if they don't have to pay LTC's to move their low time, NON ATPL pilots into the left seat or help them off to AC. I'm also heavily against any P2F scheme like the jazz approach. I'm also not a fan of the pathways program.

KP, do you know if there is going to be a pay incentive for the captains who agree to doing PICUS?

What's the issue with pathways? Low experience or something else?

[KenoraPilot]

The expansion of the PICUS program is a hard sell for me. It solely benefits the company if they don't have to pay LTC's to move their low time, NON ATPL pilots into the left seat or help them off to AC. I'm also heavily against any P2F scheme like the jazz approach. I'm also not a fan of the pathways program.

KP, do you know if there is going to be a pay incentive for the captains who agree to doing PICUS?

Hey, I do not believe there is a pay incentive, the incentive is to support and help the ALPA membership pilots further their careers and attain their ATPLs. Yes it does help the company, but it also really helps the FO's who are struggling to find the hours for their ATPL. Why shouldn't we assist them?

[rxl]

Honest question, are there any good very low hour pilots or do you feel that you are always « babysitting »?

I have flown with many low timers over the last couple of years, and with very few exceptions they are very good at their jobs.
I do not feel at all like a baby sitter.

[goingnowherefast]

Free PICUS is a bit is a bit of a hard sell for me. Allows Jazz to continue hiring non-ATPL candidates. If they were forced to hire ATPL pilots, pay might go up for everybody.

[rxl]

Free PICUS is a bit is a bit of a hard sell for me. Allows Jazz to continue hiring non-ATPL candidates. If they were forced to hire ATPL pilots, pay might go up for everybody.

I’m not sure what the difference is for an LTC doing line indoc vs. PICUS ... should be the same pay.

[flyingcanuck]

Free PICUS is a bit is a bit of a hard sell for me. Allows Jazz to continue hiring non-ATPL candidates. If they were forced to hire ATPL pilots, pay might go up for everybody.

I’m not sure what the difference is for an LTC doing line indoc vs. PICUS ... should be the same pay.

Because PICUS you could have a 1+ year FO who knows what theyre doing vs a guy who has no clue?

[Inverted2]

I don’t think there will be any non LTC captains signing up to do free PICUS.

[Captain Kirkk]

I don’t think there will be any non LTC captains signing up to do free PICUS.

Captain Kirk will!

In all seriousness though, they’ll have more than enough guys volunteer. People want to help the young ones exit this dump

[47north]

I don’t think there will be any non LTC captains signing up to do free PICUS.

Captain Kirk will!

In all seriousness though, they’ll have more than enough guys volunteer. People want to help the young ones exit this dump

Dump? Seriously? If you think it is that bad then please just leave. We don't need people like you around here.

[ACboi]

I don’t think there will be any non LTC captains signing up to do free PICUS.

Captain Kirk will!

In all seriousness though, they’ll have more than enough guys volunteer. People want to help the young ones exit this dump

Dump? Seriously? If you think it is that bad then please just leave. We don't need people like you around here.

Seriously? He/she can't voice his/her own freedom of expression? We don't need people like you around here.

[Mr. re]

I don’t think there will be any non LTC captains signing up to do free PICUS.

Captain Kirk will!

In all seriousness though, they’ll have more than enough guys volunteer. People want to help the young ones exit this dump

Dump? Seriously? If you think it is that bad then please just leave. We don't need people like you around here.

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Lol, frickin dump. Get outta here boys, save yourselves.

[hithere]

Captain Kirk will!

In all seriousness though, they’ll have more than enough guys volunteer. People want to help the young ones exit this dump

Dump? Seriously? If you think it is that bad then please just leave. We don't need people like you around here.

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Lol, frickin dump. Get outta here boys, save yourselves.

Capt Kirk,
We all know who you are, the same guy that posted a highly embarrassing(for you no less) YouTube video about(amount others)how much money you were making as a Captain at Jazz. Now all of sudden it’s a dump? WTF is your deal man?

[skypirate88]

Dump? Seriously? If you think it is that bad then please just leave. We don't need people like you around here.

1+

Lol, frickin dump. Get outta here boys, save yourselves.

Capt Kirk,
We all know who you are, the same guy that posted a highly embarrassing(for you no less) YouTube video about(amount others)how much money you were making as a Captain at Jazz. Now all of sudden it’s a dump? WTF is your deal man?

You clearly don't realize that there are 2 posters with similar names. Kirkk and Kirk. Kirk is the Jazz guy, Kirkk is a guy intentionally trying to get guys like yourself worked up.

[hithere]

Of course it’s entirely possible they are the same person with two different handles. It’s happened before

[Canoehead]

Captain Kirkk

Just curious when you worked at Jazz?

[genetic jack hammer]

Word around Jazz is that captianKirk (the mentor guy and youtube one) is going to mainline AC.It makes sense, considering that he's removed his "regional pilot pay" video. I wonder if he's gonna be financially better off, at approximately 50% less than what he was making at Jazz...good luck. Can't wait for your new batch of videos.

[Oxi]

Word around Jazz is that captianKirk (the mentor guy and youtube one) is going to mainline AC.It makes sense, considering that he's removed his "regional pilot pay" video. I wonder if he's gonna be financially better off, at approximately 50% less than what he was making at Jazz...good luck. Can't wait for your new batch of videos.

If his AC training goes as well as his RJ upgrade he might be out of a job