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Inverted2 wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:58 pm
I’m sure this was just a trial virus for the Chinese bio weapons lab. They will likely come out with something worse in the fall. I don’t really buy the eating bats or the other armadillo like creature theory. They’ve probably been eating that disgusting shit for thousands of years. Did get the pro democracy protests to stop almost overnight.
It wasn’t a trial, but it was likely a virus they found. No joke. It’s pretty clear what happened now that I read this. Researcher goes into a cave, gets contaminated, and brings it into Wuhan. BIG whoops.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/202 ... ses-near-/

Chinese government researchers isolated more than 2,000 animal viruses, including deadly bat coronaviruses, and carried out scientific work on them just three miles from a wild animal market identified as the epicenter of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Reports of the extensive Chinese research on bat viruses likely will fuel more calls for Beijing to make public what it knows about such work.

“This is one of the worst cover-ups in human history, and now the world is facing a global pandemic,” Rep. Michael T. McCaul, Texas Republican and ranking member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, said last week.

It gets better...

Chinese state media outlets revealed that Mr. Tian once failed to wear protective gear in a cave and as a result came into contact with bat urine. To avoid contracting a disease, he self-quarantined for 14 days — the same recommended period for people exposed to the new COVID-19 strain.

After the incident exposing him to bat urine, Mr. Tian said, he kept a safe distance from his wife. “As long as I am not getting sick during the incubation period of 14 days, I can be lucky to get away with it,” he said.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba ... -1.5211567

Be nice to get some more clarification on what happened - I notice this has all gone very quiet.

Why on earth are Chinese nationals being given access to a level 4 lab in the first place?
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Omg, pick a conspiracy and stick with it!

Are the Chinese covering up millions of deaths or did they engineer this virus as a weapon.

Did the Spaniards bio engineer the Spanish flu? Or was that the Portuguese?

Either they are evil geniuses or complete morons. You can't have it both ways.

Try to find truths, not a bunch of fabricated pieces.
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Heliian wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:30 am
Omg, pick a conspiracy and stick with it!

Are the Chinese covering up millions of deaths or did they engineer this virus as a weapon.

Did the Spaniards bio engineer the Spanish flu? Or was that the Portuguese?

Either they are evil geniuses or complete morons. You can't have it both ways.

Try to find truths, not a bunch of fabricated pieces.

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Heliian wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:30 am
Omg, pick a conspiracy and stick with it!

Are the Chinese covering up millions of deaths or did they engineer this virus as a weapon.

Did the Spaniards bio engineer the Spanish flu? Or was that the Portuguese?

Either they are evil geniuses or complete morons. You can't have it both ways.

Try to find truths, not a bunch of fabricated pieces.
Well the Wuhan bat piss virus lab is 3 miles away from the COVID-19 epicentre, so I don’t really see any conspiracy.
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There's going to be a bunch of conspiracy bullshit floating around on social media and even the mainstream media for years to come.

All of it is going to be inflamed for political gain by both nations. It wouldn't surprise me if the bat piss story was something that was leaked to the media by the US state department.

None of it really matters at this point. The genie is out of the bottle. Whether it was a @#$! up at a lab or terrible conditions at a wet market, it remains a fact that disease experts have been warning about the wet market scenario for over two decades -- so to me, that seems more likely than health professionals fucking up in a lab (all over the world, disease experts deal with highly infectious pathogens safely, on a day-to-day basis).

Doesn't help to play the blame game. Just stay home and do your part for now. Going forward, get rid of these markets, and make sure we're prepared for the next pandemic because it could potentially be way worse than this one.
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Trematode wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:16 am
Doesn't help to play the blame game. Just stay home and do your part for now. Going forward, get rid of these markets, and make sure we're prepared for the next pandemic because it could potentially be way worse than this one.
You can’t just “get ride if these wet markets”. They’re literally a vital part of life all over Asia. It’s been like that for hundreds of years. You can’t just tell a billion people to simply just go the grocery store. If you knew anything about Asian culture you would realize that getting rid of wet markets is not feasible whatsoever.

The blame game is important because it holds people accountable. The onus is on the Chinese government to keep this from happening again.
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mixturerich wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:24 am
The blame game is important because it holds people accountable. The onus is on the Chinese government to keep this from happening again.
Good luck with enforcing that!

How about we all just accept that regardless of how this one started, or who's actually responsible, the onus is on us to ensure that our own healthcare and emergency management systems are properly led, staffed, equipped and funded to do a better job of handling the next pandemic. Because I'm pretty confident there will be a next time, and for planning purposes we should assume it's going to be worse than this one.
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The wet market has re-opened. So it could not be the source or they would have kept it shut :)

At least we are only dealing with one epidemic , have some sympathy for some countries that are fighting multiple outbreaks . As well as facing a second wave of the covid 19 , they are facing a swine flu that has destroyed over half their farm pigs , a bird flu that is destroying their chickens , as well as the usual seasonal flu from the south. It must feel to them that they are in the fourth wave of biological warfare.
When the summer comes the Zika virus will also return thanks to the UN anti-malarial program that used mosquitoes bred to replace the malaria carrying mosquitoes .

They should just give us Hydroxychloroquine or Chloroquine Phosphate in our breakfast and let's us get back to work . That stuff cannot be any worse than some of those other GMO non organic pesticide residues and food additives we consume without complaint :)
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Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:18 pm
The wet market has re-opened. So it could not be the source or they would have kept it shut :)

At least we are only dealing with one epidemic , have some sympathy for some countries that are fighting multiple outbreaks . As well as facing a second wave of the covid 19 , they are facing a swine flu that has destroyed over half their farm pigs , a bird flu that is destroying their chickens , as well as the usual seasonal flu from the south. It must feel to them that they are in the fourth wave of biological warfare.
When the summer comes the Zika virus will also return thanks to the UN anti-malarial program that used mosquitoes bred to replace the malaria carrying mosquitoes .

They should just give us Hydroxychloroquine or Chloroquine Phosphate in our breakfast and let's us get back to work . That stuff cannot be any worse than some of those other GMO non organic pesticide residues and food additives we consume without complaint :)
Speak for yourself - that shit isn't allowed in the EU! :mrgreen:
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The ban on hormones in the production of beef in the EU is why Breast Cancer rates are forty percent lower than countries that allow hormones in beef production.
One of the biggest factors for breast cancer after alcohol .
Save the boobies :)
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Eric Janson wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:23 am
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba ... -1.5211567

Be nice to get some more clarification on what happened - I notice this has all gone very quiet.

Why on earth are Chinese nationals being given access to a level 4 lab in the first place?
Shhhh..... You’re supposed to follow the media’s narrative. It was from Chinese eating bats rats and cats. Not from a Chinese bio weapons lab in Wuhan. :!:
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Inverted2 wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:40 pm
Eric Janson wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:23 am
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba ... -1.5211567

Be nice to get some more clarification on what happened - I notice this has all gone very quiet.

Why on earth are Chinese nationals being given access to a level 4 lab in the first place?
Shhhh..... You’re supposed to follow the media’s narrative. It was from Chinese eating bats rats and cats. Not from a Chinese bio weapons lab in Wuhan. :!:
It was confirmed independently by several countries that COVID-19 is a natural virus and not one cultivated in a lab.
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2R wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:38 pm
The ban on hormones in the production of beef in the EU is why Breast Cancer rates are forty percent lower than countries that allow hormones in beef production.
One of the biggest factors for breast cancer after alcohol .
Save the boobies :)
Breast cancer rates between the EU and US are nearly identical at 1 in 8.

Hormones are either not present or chemically inert by the time the meat is consumed. The free radicals in charred meat will have more effect on cancer rates.

Cancer rates are rising because we’ve cured almost everything else. That and increased food production. The anti-GMO anti-hormone crowd will probably kill more people from malnutrition and famine as food supply lags behind demand than any supposed side effects. Kind of like the anti vaxxer crowd are perhaps realizing now as they get an education on how easily viruses spread and the effects of herd immunity.
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AuxBatOn wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:33 pm
It was confirmed independently by several countries that COVID-19 is a natural virus and not one cultivated in a lab.
I'd be very curious to know how that could possibly be determined.
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shimmydampner wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:32 pm
AuxBatOn wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:33 pm
It was confirmed independently by several countries that COVID-19 is a natural virus and not one cultivated in a lab.
I'd be very curious to know how that could possibly be determined.
Science. It’s amazing!
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Oh cool. Very informative appeal to authority.
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Are they the same scientists who said that all Polar Ice would be gone and we would be swimming threw the streets of New York and Miami right now?
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Are they the same scientists who said that all Polar Ice would be gone and we would be swimming threw the streets of New York and Miami right now?
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Watch this Joe Rogan podcast from March 10th. It's the most informative 90 minutes I've seen on the pandemic. The man knows his stuff. He answers the man made question starting at the 18:00 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw
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phillyfan wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:26 am
Are they the same scientists who said that all Polar Ice would be gone and we would be swimming threw the streets of New York and Miami right now?
Threw is the past tense of the verb throw. It's the word you use to say that something threw you for a loop or threw you off.
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Kind of like the anti vaxxer crowd are perhaps realizing now as they get an education on how easily viruses spread and the effects of herd immunity.
This virus spread because of ignorance and failures in the governmental systems! It continued to spread in Canada due to not closing down travel from affected countries and having something as simple as masks and a culture of wearing them !!!
Herd immunity is normally a term used for the vaccination of a majority of people so that compromised folks are shielded ( sounds great but the overall science is somewhat lacking ) WRT the Covid19 disease, herd immunity has nothing to do with vaccines and is the actual disease infecting a majority of a countries people This is a last resort thing that never should be a part of an eradication plan !
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https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanc ... 9/fulltext

Look at the references. Many are from outside China. I doubt the Americans would let China get away with it....
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corethatthermal wrote:
Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:37 am
Kind of like the anti vaxxer crowd are perhaps realizing now as they get an education on how easily viruses spread and the effects of herd immunity.
This virus spread because of ignorance and failures in the governmental systems! It continued to spread in Canada due to not closing down travel from affected countries and having something as simple as masks and a culture of wearing them !!!
Herd immunity is normally a term used for the vaccination of a majority of people so that compromised folks are shielded ( sounds great but the overall science is somewhat lacking ) WRT the Covid19 disease, herd immunity has nothing to do with vaccines and is the actual disease infecting a majority of a countries people This is a last resort thing that never should be a part of an eradication plan !
I am not sure what else could have been done to be honest. Had a vaccine been available, this would not have happened. Yea, vaccines work.
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