A mess to regain confidence.

[valleyboy]

how do you get heard immunity if you are in the group where you die - silly people don't care until it's too late.

[pelmet]

how do you get heard immunity if you are in the group where you die - silly people don't care until it's too late.

Quarantine yourself until the 80% who are not vulnerable. Or, if you don't want to quarantine.....take a risk, use good judgement, and hope for the best. Kind of like skydiving. It's a calculated risk.

It would be ideal if we could get it all over and done with in a month or so. Then the vulnerable could come out after having played on the computer a lot. But now that we are so careful....it will take much longer. If it is true that there has never been a corona =virus vaccine and it becomes impossible to get one....all this social distancing will mean that the vulnerable will be at high risk for years to come. Enjoy life in Rockie's new world.

[shimmydampner]

use good judgement

Wait, are we supposed to use good judgement, or take advice on infectious diseases from anonymous pilots on the Internet? These seem like two irreconcilable, mutually exclusive options.

[Rockie]

[quote=valleyboy post_id=<a href="tel:1119931">1119931</a> time=<a href="tel:1592771049">1592771049</a> user_id=49277]
how do you get heard immunity if you are in the group where you die - silly people don't care until it's too late.

Quarantine yourself until the 80% who are not vulnerable. Or, if you don't want to quarantine.....take a risk, use good judgement, and hope for the best. Kind of like skydiving. It's a calculated risk.

It would be ideal if we could get it all over and done with in a month or so. Then the vulnerable could come out after having played on the computer a lot. But now that we are so careful....it will take much longer. If it is true that there has never been a corona =virus vaccine and it becomes impossible to get one....all this social distancing will mean that the vulnerable will be at high risk for years to come. Enjoy life in Rockie's new world.
[/quote]

Don’t forget the perfect 120,000 + 1000/day deaths in the US Pelmet. Death shouldn't be a deterrent as long as they all happen within one month right? It’s just like ripping off a bandaid, the pain of losing a million or so people will only last a week or so then we’re back baby.

Only a complete tool would care about over a million dead right Pelmet? They should get with the program and stop interfering with your Friday nights on the town with all your girlfriends.

[pelmet]

[quote=valleyboy post_id=<a href="tel:1119931">1119931</a> time=<a href="tel:1592771049">1592771049</a> user_id=49277]
how do you get heard immunity if you are in the group where you die - silly people don't care until it's too late.

Quarantine yourself until the 80% who are not vulnerable. Or, if you don't want to quarantine.....take a risk, use good judgement, and hope for the best. Kind of like skydiving. It's a calculated risk.

It would be ideal if we could get it all over and done with in a month or so. Then the vulnerable could come out after having played on the computer a lot. But now that we are so careful....it will take much longer. If it is true that there has never been a corona =virus vaccine and it becomes impossible to get one....all this social distancing will mean that the vulnerable will be at high risk for years to come. Enjoy life in Rockie's new world.

Don’t forget the perfect 120,000 + 1000/day deaths in the US Pelmet. Death shouldn't be a deterrent as long as they all happen within one month right? It’s just like ripping off a bandaid, the pain of losing a million or so people will only last a week or so then we’re back baby.

[/quote]

Effective quarantine. Mind you, I think it could only be 100% if those vulnerable people were cut off from AvCanada as well.

Europe is opening up as well. Can't afford indefinite lockdowns.

Remember....the goal should be to Flatten The Curve. That means hospitals don't get overwhelmed.

[mbav8r]

[quote=valleyboy post_id=<a href="tel:1119931">1119931</a> time=<a href="tel:1592771049">1592771049</a> user_id=49277]
how do you get heard immunity if you are in the group where you die - silly people don't care until it's too late.

Quarantine yourself until the 80% who are not vulnerable. Or, if you don't want to quarantine.....take a risk, use good judgement, and hope for the best. Kind of like skydiving. It's a calculated risk.

It would be ideal if we could get it all over and done with in a month or so. Then the vulnerable could come out after having played on the computer a lot. But now that we are so careful....it will take much longer. If it is true that there has never been a corona =virus vaccine and it becomes impossible to get one....all this social distancing will mean that the vulnerable will be at high risk for years to come. Enjoy life in Rockie's new world.

Don’t forget the perfect 120,000 + 1000/day deaths in the US Pelmet. Death shouldn't be a deterrent as long as they all happen within one month right? It’s just like ripping off a bandaid, the pain of losing a million or so people will only last a week or so then we’re back baby.

Effective quarantine. Mind you, I think it could only be 100% if those vulnerable people were cut off from AvCanada as well.

Europe is opening up as well. Can't afford indefinite lockdowns.

Remember....the goal should be to Flatten The Curve. That means hospitals don't get overwhelmed.
[/quote]
I’m not going to go back through your posts, but I’m pretty sure you were advocating for a return to normal while the curve was still on the up trajectory, I’m also fairly certain you balked at the fact the hospitals could be overwhelmed. Maybe there is hope for you.

[HavaJava]

You are a voice of reason Pelmet.

I’ve stopped trying to convert the cowering and fearful masses...it’s a losing battle... but I still feel it’s important to support those that have a clear and balanced outlook on this crisis. You are not alone. There are many people that feel the same way. I hope one day the majority of people will realize the errors we’ve made as a society...however, I am deeply saddened by the long term societal damage that has has been set in motion and continues to accelerate in a terrifying direction.

[Rockie]

You are not alone.

You are unfortunately correct. I’ve mentioned the death toll in the US where the struggle between science and stupefying ignorance is on full display a couple of times now but it’s been ignored. An inconvenient fact best not thought about and certainly not mentioned .

Yet a fact it is.

[mixturerich]

You are a voice of reason Pelmet.

I’ve stopped trying to convert the cowering and fearful masses...it’s a losing battle... but I still feel it’s important to support those that have a clear and balanced outlook on this crisis. You are not alone. There are many people that feel the same way. I hope one day the majority of people will realize the errors we’ve made as a society...however, I am deeply saddened by the long term societal damage that has has been set in motion and continues to accelerate in a terrifying direction.

Jesus Christ, the “cowering and fearful masses”. Aren’t you a tough guy, eh? Oh, how soft humanity is! Our own worst enemy! The virus isn’t killing society, we’re doing it to ourselves by overreacting, right!? If only we listened to people like you!

Isolate the vulnerable! No seeing anybody over 60, including parents and grandparents, until this is over! Let the kids get sick! You’re 27 years old and have chronic lung issues? Sucks for you, you’re staying inside for another year! No fun for you. I’m 30 and I can’t wait to help herd immunity to save the future, and I sure hope I don’t get permanent lung damage after catching covid! It will be all worth it though to make the old avcanada experts happy and save our precious future, the future that has always looked so bright for humanity anyways (sarcasm).

[HavaJava]

You are a voice of reason Pelmet.

I’ve stopped trying to convert the cowering and fearful masses...it’s a losing battle... but I still feel it’s important to support those that have a clear and balanced outlook on this crisis. You are not alone. There are many people that feel the same way. I hope one day the majority of people will realize the errors we’ve made as a society...however, I am deeply saddened by the long term societal damage that has has been set in motion and continues to accelerate in a terrifying direction.

Jesus Christ, the “cowering and fearful masses”. Aren’t you a tough guy, eh? Oh, how soft humanity is! Our own worst enemy! The virus isn’t killing society, we’re doing it to ourselves by overreacting, right!? If only we listened to people like you!

Isolate the vulnerable! No seeing anybody over 60, including parents and grandparents, until this is over! Let the kids get sick! You’re 27 years old and have chronic lung issues? Sucks for you, you’re staying inside for another year! No fun for you. I’m 30 and I can’t wait to help herd immunity to save the future, and I sure hope I don’t get permanent lung damage after catching covid! It will be all worth it though to make the old avcanada experts happy and save our precious future, the future that has always looked so bright for humanity anyways (sarcasm).

Proof that people like you are not worth our time. I will continue to support those who believe in a balanced approach that doesn’t ignore medium to long term health and societal outcomes.

[2R]

The only people who believe in herd immunity for a highly contagious disease with no vaccine or treatment are the same people who think the sprinkles on their donut come out of a Unicorns bunghole

[Rockie]

I will continue to support those who believe in a balanced approach that doesn’t ignore medium to long term health and societal outcomes.

So now you’re saying you support science and government plans to reopen society safely and not this herd immunity nonsense espoused by basement dwelling trolls?

What’s the disagreement here then?

[Beefitarian]

Who wants a donut with sprinkles? It's not worth the calories. I want one from Texas dipped in chocolate.

[2R]

Hot fresh Krispy Kreme doughnuts are the best , just a shame their Krap coffee makes truck stop coffee seem almost drinkable , Almost as bad as the standard NATO coffee served at Radar sites . If they sold a half decent coffee they could rule the world .
Anyone old enough to remember the blue jean and beer revolution in East Berlin would understand that ridiculous hyperbolic statement . But I truly believe if Krispy Kreme had better coffee they could rule the world
Just when ever I have stood drooling watching them making donuts , all their attention is on the donuts , customer service is almost non existing and the coffee has been sitting all morning .
If they sold Lavazza coffee like they serve in most first class airline seating they would RULE .
Fresh hot Lavazza in reclined comfort , good times .
It is the small things I am missing

[pelmet]

I’m not going to go back through your posts, but I’m pretty sure you were advocating for a return to normal while the curve was still on the up trajectory, I’m also fairly certain you balked at the fact the hospitals could be overwhelmed. Maybe there is hope for you.

How about you find the info you think I said. Won't happen. I don't say return to normal...quarantine is not normal. But feel free to find where I said what you claim about hospitals. Won't happen.

Anyways....I'm pretty much back to normal activity. Suggest others do as well...with precautions of course.

[pelmet]

You are a voice of reason Pelmet.

I’ve stopped trying to convert the cowering and fearful masses...it’s a losing battle... but I still feel it’s important to support those that have a clear and balanced outlook on this crisis. You are not alone. There are many people that feel the same way. I hope one day the majority of people will realize the errors we’ve made as a society...however, I am deeply saddened by the long term societal damage that has has been set in motion and continues to accelerate in a terrifying direction.

Jesus Christ, the “cowering and fearful masses”. Aren’t you a tough guy, eh? Oh, how soft humanity is! Our own worst enemy! The virus isn’t killing society, we’re doing it to ourselves by overreacting, right!? If only we listened to people like you!

Isolate the vulnerable! No seeing anybody over 60, including parents and grandparents, until this is over! Let the kids get sick! You’re 27 years old and have chronic lung issues? Sucks for you, you’re staying inside for another year! No fun for you. I’m 30 and I can’t wait to help herd immunity to save the future, and I sure hope I don’t get permanent lung damage after catching covid! It will be all worth it though to make the old avcanada experts happy and save our precious future, the future that has always looked so bright for humanity anyways (sarcasm).

Proof that people like you are not worth our time. I will continue to support those who believe in a balanced approach that doesn’t ignore medium to long term health and societal outcomes.

Exactly...the perennial purveyors of doom will always be around. Man-made global warming, Society is being killed by Coronavirus, etc. Lets just get on with life.....and of course be cautious for the vulnerable who thing that their freedom to to everything overrides society.

You are a voice of reason Pelmet.

An island of sanity in a sea of insanity....had to say it just for Rockie.

[shimmydampner]

Yes indeed, those prophets of doom: NASA.
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
The overlap in Venn diagrams representing avcanada members who are both infectious disease AND climate experts is astonishing. I can only imagine that if we include flat earth truthers, our collective mind would be blown away by the uncontestable knowledge on this site.
It is odd however, that the spelling and grammar circles never seem to make the cut.

[Rockie]

Exactly...the perennial purveyors of doom will always be around.

466,000 dead world wide. 8400 dead in Canada. And of course the 120,000 dead in the US that is climbing by 1000 per day.

I've mentioned this a few times now Pelmet and I can't help wondering why you refuse to address it. Is it because:

A. It's too painful for you?
B. It's a deep state conspiracy and you don't believe anybody really died?
C. You think it's a false flag operation?
D. They're all libtards and don't really count?
E. 466,000 dead is a tragic but acceptable loss so you can spend a wonderful evening at Hooters?
F. You're a psychopath?

[photofly]

The overlap in Venn diagrams representing avcanada members who are both infectious disease AND climate experts is astonishing. I can only imagine that if we include flat earth truthers, our collective mind would be blown away by the uncontestable knowledge on this site.
It is odd however, that the spelling and grammar circles never seem to make the cut.

There's a limit to what you can fit in even a pilot's brain.

[ayseven]

I'm doomed.