Ok here you gombav8r wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:56 pmYou should have kept refraining, the majority is not all, leaving some risk for otherwise healthy young adults who would otherwise have lived long lives, who are you to decide that wearing a mask for those people is too much to ask.hotdog1 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 05, 2020 10:43 am I’ve tried to not post but I just can’t restrain myself anymore
To all the people afraid of the virus -please, just go to stats Canada and look at the charts for “excess mortality”
You may be surprised to see that excess deaths are not killing Canadians in mass numbers.
I just looked, again, and there are many weeks of negative ‘excess deaths’ during this pandemic. There is even a note regarding one week in Nova Scotia when 37 excess deaths were reported-DONT get excited to think this number supports the fear agenda, the note attributes that high number to the mass shooting, not covid.
Just remember, most deaths are in LTC homes, so the virus killing these people is likely just speeding up the deaths of people that would most likely have died soon anyways, and don’t reply with “oh so you think old people’s lives don’t matter...”-the fact is we all die, and people in LTC homes are generally elderly and vulnerable and likely to die sooner rather than later.
Ask yourself, why is the media only reporting and repeating the numbers of cases’-as of cases mean automatic deaths. There is very little being said about hospitalization rates and ICU patients. Remember this was all about not overwhelming the health care system, that was accomplished BEFORE mask use.
The curve was flattened BEFORE mask use. The narrative has changed to one of “ifs” and “maybes” to keep the fear going.
If you’re not over 65 with serious underlying conditions then you are fine. People over 65 with serious underlying conditions are over 90% of deaths. That would leave about 1000 people dead over 6 months from this virus, over the same time period 135 000 Canadians have died of other causes. Diabetes and obesity account for 20% of deaths, that is far far more than covid.
So, to summarize, look at the hard data and the numbers and stop listening to the fear narrative being constantly repeated by the media as if we were all about to die if you don’t wear a mask.
How about the young healthy who contract it and bring it home to their elderly parents who is living with them because, they’re young enough not to need a care home.
Put yourself in the position of killing your elderly parent, the damage that would do to your psyche, to your marriage, to your relationship with your siblings and so on. Is a mask so much trouble to ask for, I mean if you don’t give a shit about the 1 foot in the grave LTC residents, at least the ones that were likely to lead a somewhat healthy golden years.
I have a parent living with me, I’m very careful going out and about but even before she moved in, I was taking those precautions, I was even wearing a mask before it became such a huge inconvenience for the inconsiderate aholes, who apparently don’t have anyone in their life worth the small yet apparently effective measure.
I honestly don’t understand why this is even a thing, even if it had a 10% chance of being 40% effective, I would still do it
Don’t assume how I or my parents would feel. That’s just self righteous. I do understand your side of the argument depends on emotions and feelings. How do you know my elderly parents don’t support the anti mask and are willing to take the ‘chance’in order to live a happy, fear free life?
As for your LTC home comments, it’s funny that you would let them die alone-isolated from family, so I guess you don’t really care about quality of life at the end.
If the masks made such a difference, why the flip flop on mask policy-first it wasn’t a good way to prevent the spread, now it is??? And don’t try and use the “saving masks as PPE for hospitals” because ‘any face covering’ will do right??
Masks are not effective, no matter how many times you repeat it. The curve was flattened BEFORE mask mandates!! And now since masks mandated the numbers of cases are rising? That’s just counterintuitive isn’t it. More likely a combination of masks not being effective -remember when “proper mask use” was important, no touching, no removing and putting back on cause that would contaminate it. But now it’s actually recommended to repeatedly remove, put in dirty pocket etc , and giving people a false sense of security leading to less social distancing and less hand washing. But hey wear a mask! It’s saves lives and reduces transmission!!!! Lol
Maybe I will wear a mask-a dirty, contaminated mask-but you’ll feel better right??? Lol
If you want it wear one, go for it. But don’t be so selfish as to make new bylaws to enforce it on everyone
If you care so much about saving lives, it’s ironic that you accept a 700% increase in drug overdoses /deaths in BC as a direct result of increased substance abuse from economic losses, anxiety compounded by the closure/reduced capacity/funding and staffing of resource Centers. In BC the drug overdose deaths have exceeded covid deaths for three months. I’m glad you care so much about young people’s lives that you are willing to let them die of preventable drug overdoses and not covid.
You can scream people are selfish all you want while you virtue signal from your self righteous pulpit. You can be run by emotions and fear all you want, but the numbers and data tell a different story.
Very few young healthy people die or even get sick from covid.
If you live with elderly, vulnerable parents then nothing has changed for you or them, except the fear and anxiety level-which isn’t healthy.
You can feel better with a mask while destroying countless because of the negative effects of the covid restrictions -drug abuse, domestic abuse etc.
you won’t change anyone’s minds by repeated ignoring the data or calling people selfish or pretending that you or your parents choices in living life should dictate how others choose to live theirs.
Don’t forget to download the “tracking app” with the less than 4% of Canadians who have -it’s funny how the same people that supposedly overwhelmingly support masks don’t support an even less invasive safety measure like the tracing app. Is that yet another lie? Lol
Good luck to you
