North Cariboo Air vs. Nt Air/CMA

fogghorn · Post by **fogghorn** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:34 pm

Has anyone heard a rumor around the patch that Cariboo is buying out nt air and maybe cma as well? Word is, Cariboo mgmt is set to make a big announcement about something very soon, and some other stirrings are going on about negotiations. Anyway, that is the rumor dujour on the east side of the rocks, should know shortly if this tale is bs, or if it has legs.

Over the Horn · Post by **Over the Horn** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:01 pm

I heard a crazy rumor last fall that they were looking into a Vancouver base but that might just be a crazy rumor

greenwich · Post by **greenwich** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:34 pm

Insert picture of Trawling Vessel and Net.

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Ralliart · Post by **Ralliart** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:47 am

Here you go:

I'm bored...

Kariboo Kid · Post by **Kariboo Kid** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:55 am

I've heard the YVR thing a couple of times before but that was last year and nothing about NT/CMA.

MUSKEG · Post by **MUSKEG** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:55 am

I heard that nca and sunwest were talking merger to get a monopoly on all the oilpatch work up the mackenzie. All turbo props to focus on crew changes and hotshots and Jets to work the corporate side. Go figure.

R2000/1830 · Post by **R2000/1830** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:08 pm

Do you guys just make shit up for fun?

broompusher · Post by **broompusher** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:30 pm

No, no, they don't make shit up for fun, it's more like a full time profession

medby · Post by **medby** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:15 pm

Dockjock · Post by **Dockjock** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:11 pm

Not that I've heard anything even approaching this rumour, but when you consider the 3 (2) companies, a merger would make very good sense.

1. Cariboo is the leading charter company in Alberta with lots of clients in the oil/gas sector not insignificantly the long term contract with CNRL.
2. CMA is the leading tier 3 regional in AB and BC.
3. NT Air is the leading charter company in BC, with almost total control of the turboprop market in YVR.

There is very little overlap between any of the operations. There is considerable type commonality between the 3 operations.

Significant cost savings could be realized by eliminating a few bases.
The CMA Smithers base, which makes virtually zero economic sense and only exists because the owners live there. Ditto for NCA's Ft.St. John base- northern operations could be consolidated at NT's Prince George facility. YYC ops could be consolidated at the beautiful NCA facility, getting out of the rathole that is CMA's current hangar/office space there.

If these were public companies, the shareholders would be all over a merger like this. But since they are private "train sets" in likelihood it won't happen.

tincanflyer · Post by **tincanflyer** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:08 pm

Whats wrong with CMA's YYC hangar....I didn't think there was any rathole hangar space in YYC?

Simulated flying · Post by **Simulated flying** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:17 pm

What ever happened to Montair's PC12?

Last I heard is that they are only using it for training. can anyone shed any light on them? I've flown on their PC12 before on a charter and it was a great experience, but they seem to have fallen off the corner of the universe on the charter side. who picked up the pacific pilotage charter contract after they finished with it/lost it? I remember that they were going nuts during the summer with it. they also ran sked runs around the province too didn't they?

Rowdy · Post by **Rowdy** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:13 pm

Montairs PC 12 is elsewhere now. They've got a clean King air 100 instead, but no skeds as of yet, just the odd charter and some training.

co-joe · Post by **co-joe** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:22 pm

Most weekday mornings there's a CMA 1900 parked at Cariboo. Maybe they've merged already and we just don't know it yet.

My conspiracy theory is that Coke and Pepsi are owned by the same people and they just run ads back and forth so we don't have time to look at anyone else's soda.

snag · Post by **snag** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:43 am

Most weekday mornings there's a CMA 1900 parked at Cariboo

Sub-charters to the Oil Patch.

DontknowJack · Post by **DontknowJack** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:50 am

Rumor has it that there will be one more plane/company in CYVR, for charter work by the end of spring.

flight1206 · Post by **flight1206** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:38 am

I heard that Cariboo is going to buy out Air Canada and later they will be taking over the shuttle program next year. *&(*&%$ idiots.

JET A-1 · Post by **JET A-1** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:41 pm

"co-joe: Most weekday mornings there's a CMA 1900 parked at Cariboo. Maybe they've merged already and we just don't know it yet."

We have temporairly moved over to the old Fedex hangar by Norht Cariboo. Our hangar on the westside of the airport will be getting a new door put on which will take about a month.

JET A-1

tincanflyer · Post by **tincanflyer** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:00 pm

what happened to the door?

Go Guns · Post by **Go Guns** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:22 pm

Somehow, I doubt NCA would be looking for a King Air 200 captain in Victoria if they were in bed with CMA and NT Air.

Date:31 March 2006
Position:Captain Be 200 Victoria
Company Name:North Cariboo Air
Contact Person:Tom Blacklock
Street Address:600 Palmer Road NE
City:Calgary
State/Province:Alberta
Country:Canada
Web address: http://www.flynca.com
Email address: pilotjobs@flynca.com
Send Resume By:Email
Aircraft Types:Be 200

Job Description:
Contract Captain position on Be 200 aircraft May 1 - Aug 31 2006 based
in Victoria BC.
Requirements: ATPL, Valid Be 200 PPC, 2500 PIC, 1000 MPIC, 500 IFR as
PIC, 100 PIC in the last 12 months, minimum of 100 hours on type, and
experienced in mountain and remote strip operations.

Closing Date:30 April 2006