AC new paint job

Rebel · Post by **Rebel** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:20 pm

http://northamericanflyer.netfirms.com/ ... m=2&pos=25

boeingboy · Post by **boeingboy** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:12 pm

Boy - Air Canada is doing so well, they can't even afford green paint anymore.

Out of Control · Post by **Out of Control** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:23 pm

Glad to see there using the money well

Rebel · Post by **Rebel** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:25 pm

The picture doesn’t show it but the tail is supposed to have shades of teal whatever. I’ll reserve my judgment until I see what the actual aircraft looks like. I expect the actual look will vary from type to type; some types will look great and others like people, well...

Hmm at first glance it appears that this campaign is a waste of money. The bigger picture suggests that perhaps with all the free TV coverage that we are going to get, it sort of levels the playing field.

172pilot · Post by **172pilot** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:07 pm

Only problem is the tv coverage I've seen so far is negative. The tail scheme is nice I admit but totally unnecessary.

pickleswitch · Post by **pickleswitch** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:46 pm

https://secure.acpa.ca/images/gallery/a ... nt9dwx.jpg

CClub · Post by **CClub** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 8:44 pm

Looks like the dark green tail has been watered down completely to cover the rest of the plane. That mint green look gives it the look of a Crest toothpaste! All I can assume is that it costs less to paint the planes like that, than it did to paint the old livery.

maxofthenorth · Post by **maxofthenorth** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:52 pm

I guess it will be easier now to paint the planes all white when Air Canada has to give them back

Hun IN the SUN · Post by **Hun IN the SUN** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:46 am

Usual Negativity All I gotta say Is UP YOURS

Im very proud of my Airline, to see it overcome so much shit. We stuck it out when times are tough and its gonna turn around and be one viable and strong airline. No one else has to deal with being so regulated. Like it or not AC has been here since 1937 and will be here for alot longer

Panama Jack · Post by **Panama Jack** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:58 am

I am normally the type of person for whom it takes time to get used to new liveries, however, my immediate reaction is that I like the new look. Looks clean, fresh, new enough, and can probably be done at minimal cost-- all of this suggests a prudent move, at least to me.

CAL · Post by **CAL** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:01 am

I am with Hun in the Sun on this one......I have never seen so much negativity.

They have posted a operating profit for Q3 and when you are rebuilding something you have to pump money back into it. It is important to have a 'new' look if you are effectively building a new airline...keeps workers somewhat optimistic and we need more of that.

Besides....whether u are for Canjet/Jetsgo/Westjet/AC whatever it is! we need them up and running and profitable....cuz I am not flying a PA-31 for the rest of my life and making peanuts...

In regard to the new look....I think I liked the Evergreen green..but its still nice

ScudRunner · Post by **ScudRunner** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 2:47 pm

My Favorite is still The "Proud Wings" livery of Canadian

boeingboy · Post by **boeingboy** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:34 pm

I'm somewhat suprised Hun,

Like it or not AC has been here since 1937

For the longest time they were a crown corp so the money lost was made up for and buried. Now that most of the costs are in line - they still need to SERIOULY trim management, and the ones that are left need a major attitude change. We all know this won't happen - and A/C will be going down this same road again before long. Most other people are right - it's not about paint and uniforms (there was nothing wrong with what they had) it's about money. Why not take the money that they spent on this "rebranding" - including Celine - and lower their fares. They would give Westjet a serious run for their money.

While I think the new ads with Celine's song 'Fly', and the new tail logo are pretty slick. The aircraft color is an eyesore and none of this would influence my travel desicion. Customer service (re cabin crew) and price are going to be the major factors. Top this off with morrons for managment - and you get the same old story.

They have posted a operating profit for Q3

OMG!! First they are not in positive cash flow and second the money they DIDN'T lose is hardly a drop in the bucket. I suspect the new 'rebranding' will put a serious pinch on any gains they happen to make. They still have a loooonnnnng way to go.

Say Altitude · Post by **Say Altitude** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:12 pm

I'm so tired of repeating myself because of the uninformed.........

One question - name one employee group that took a 25% across the board job slash in the days following the CCAA filing?

Pilots??? Nope.
AME's/Bag Smashers? Nope.
FA's? Nope.

It was the management folks. Nobody, not one employee group has taken more of a hit than the NON-UNIONIZE management folks. No bargaining, no recall clause - nothing. So quit spouting off about how "management" has got to go........it's your own poor attitude and those around you that seem to want to rain on managment's attempts to turn things around? Even your own co-workers around you want to make a go of it so why keep living in the past?

Do you REALLY think that management want AC to file CCAA again??? REALLY??? I'm sure everyone from Robert to the brand new gate agent wants to work at a place where they enjoy coming to work.

Get over yourself and get the facts right before you spout off.

scubasteve · Post by **scubasteve** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:55 pm

25% cut of what salaries to begin with? I know MIlton gets the big bucks but what are ballpark figures for the rest of management?

Say Altitude · Post by **Say Altitude** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:13 pm

25% job cuts not pay cuts - 25% of the non-unionized "managment" were let go.

Hun IN the SUN · Post by **Hun IN the SUN** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:53 pm

THANK YOU, say altitude

drives me nuts too

boeingboy · Post by **boeingboy** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:53 pm

Yea - Now they need a 25% pay cut as well.

Pindunder Jeep · Post by **Pindunder Jeep** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:04 pm

Say Altitude

I am to assume that you work for AC and must be in Management of some sort, or someone close to you was. Yes 25 per cent of non unionised management were let go. You need to remember though, that they were and still are way too top heavy in the first place.

As an employee, I can tell you, we all want AC to do well but there is no direction or even information coming from so called management. I here about most stuff from the papers. Judge Farley even pulled Milton aside at the final CCAA hearing and gave him a shakedown saying he better organise his management team better and drop this us and them attitude.

In the meantime, we operate with the Transport minimum compliment of cabin staff while while managers are busy writing memos trying to figure out how they can get better customer service.

It is no secret. Everyone here has it figured out and quite frankly I think the people here could do a better job.

planeguy · Post by **planeguy** » Sun Oct 24, 2004 4:40 pm

maybe they'll call me now for an interview.

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