Should CAPs (And others) be available free online.

[Bushav8er]

Have you ever tried to find info/details for flight planning when you are not at the aircraft/airport? Shouldn't NavCanada/Canada be in the same century as the US and other countries and post these online, free and current?

Current prices and availability, for all aviation products, seem to run against 'flight safety' as some may not be using the latest info due to cost; add in the cycle(s) for updates and these get higher.

Further, whats with the trend to move once valid approaches to the 'Restricted' category? Most of these are NDB approaches and the ONLY approach available for the airport. Not only are they restricting who can use the airport, they are restricting the serviceability of the airport and its economic impact to the community it serves. Not everyone has a (approved) GPS but most have an ADF. Are they trying to force private IFR out of existence - thats gotta be good for safety - or are they just to short-handed to flight test all these approaches, and hence NOT meeting their mandate.

(I guess that if you are the only provider of a legally required item you can charge whatever the hell you want and get away with it)

Rant over

[Hedley]

As far as I can tell, safety is not an important
objective for aviation in Canada.

I gotta ask the same question about why I can't
get Canadian radar on my 496.

[Cat Driver]

I gotta ask the same question about why I can't
get Canadian radar on my 496.

TC thinks you don't need to have that feature?

['effin hippie]

Do we even need a poll for this.....

[Brantford Beech Boy]

You had me at "free"

BBB

[Navajo Flyer]

Nav Canada is a business. Of course they want to charge for that. What do I get for my $55 medical process fee, oh yea some beaucrat.

[Hedley]

Whatever happened to the "fuel excise tax" that
now goes into general revenue, instead of paying
for safety-related aviation stuff like this?

Canadians are so stupid. They are taxed over and
over and over and over again FOR THE SAME
THING - and they just don't care.

Meanwhile, safety-related information like approach
plates (which foreigners have difficulty getting) and
radar information (who likes to fly into Cb's?) is
withheld by the government, in some lame attempt
at double- and triple-taxation

[Cat Driver]

Hedley, remember if we don't like it we can move to another country....

....I just love those comments.

So being a Canadian and paying our taxes and paying into the old age pension and the CCP plus having paid for our medical care means if we disagree with the way the country is being run by the people we vote into government then we should just leave.

Gotta love that mindset.

Sort of like paying into an insurance plan for your whole life time and when the management of the insurance company gets so corrupt that the insurance company becomes disfunctional rather than change the management of the insurance company they tell us to just leave Canada and forego the coverage....

...fuc.in great thinking.

[planett]

And why is NavCanada in the process of revoking many of the northern approaches in the RCAP which are the only approaches those communities have? Maintaining these approaches is what we pay them for through our navigation charges and landing fees.

[linecrew]

Here's a site after a bit of googling...and then turning on my computer! (nyuk-nuk)

Anyhoo here's a site that seems to have a lot of basic infor for aerodromes in Canada.

http://worldaerodata.com/countries/Canada.php

As for the approaches going into the RACP, *I think* it's because they don't meet the TC criteria to be in the CAP anymore but not sure about this one.

[planett]

I'll clarify,

NavCanada is revoking many approaches which are in the RCAP. They will cease to exist. They are serving airports which have no other approaches. I thought we were paying them to maintain approaches through our navigation fees. Isn't that part of thier mandate?

[Tim]

For all the money we shell out it really should be online. I bet it would even save a ton because most people would probably opt to get them online.

[linecrew]

I'll clarify,

NavCanada is revoking many approaches which are in the RCAP. They will cease to exist. They are serving airports which have no other approaches. I thought we were paying them to maintain approaches through our navigation fees. Isn't that part of thier mandate?

Dude I was referring to the ORIGNAL posters comments..not yours. His comments referred to appoaches going from the CAP to the RCAP...

['effin hippie]

NavCanada is revoking many approaches which are in the RCAP. They will cease to exist. They are serving airports which have no other approaches. I thought we were paying them to maintain approaches through our navigation fees. Isn't that part of thier mandate?

Examples? I haven't heard about this. Maybe I'm just clueless, or need to read the Memo board at work.

ef

[planett]

Next time you look at the RCAP CD ROM, find "Approaches to be revoked in the Jan 15 issue", it's a separate section, also "Approaches to be revoked in future editions" There are many.